Confusion of VIs

Take advantage of i.e. soak up cheap power and avoid peak prices. This is mainly about EV charging and getting millions of connected cars to act as a huge energy store available to soak up excess renewable power. The majority will want to take advantage of cheaper bills. But fine if you and others don't want to, as that means cheaper power for the rest of us. Dynamic pricing was always the plan. It makes the whole system far more efficient and therefore cheaper.

Just like today there will still be fixed tariffs for those happy to pay a higher average price for their electricity. No one promised you power to cheap to meter. That was Nuclear in the 1960s. You will be happy on your expensive fixed tariff and I will be happy to take advantage of much cheaper power offered on the variable tariffs.

It will because in addition to those who will avoid using high power appliances at peak times, millions of people will have home batteries that will automatically avoid using the grid at peak times. We were talking about a sensible way forward but yet again (we have been round this loop before) its beyond you. It's more than enough to completely flatten the daily peak. You are obsessed with Dunkelflaute but happily offshore wind is at its best during winter and if that not enough we can just burn some gas as its net zero not zero we are aiming for (and in 2050 not tomorrow). Just another of your fever dreams. That sounds like an improvement over today, where the only option for dealing with a power shortage is to cut power to whole areas .

Coupled could just be a seperate box that plugs into your meter. The important part is the software that enables the battery to support efficient grid operation. That's also the reason why the power companies should pay for, or at least subsidise, them.

You seem to be intent on proving that you are completely devoid of anything even remotely resembling vision. The components to make far cheaper home batteries are entering mass production by the worlds two largest battery companies later this year. To you this is irrelevent to the future cost of home batteries because Dixons don't stock them today 🤦‍♂️ It is what we are paying for the early prototypes, the cost of developing a new industry. Another 🤦‍♂️ The large scale build out isnow happening check back in 2030 when we have +50GW of offshore wind. That a sensible reason for delaying purchase. It won't flatline because there will always need to be an incentive to use excess (i.e. free) renewable energy when it is available.

As I said you are living in the past,apparently unable to move on. CATL's new battery is half the price of last years and will last virtually for ever. If you read the article I posted you would have seen that by the end of this year "a 60 kWh battery that costs manufacturers $6,776.00 today will cost just $3,388" So a better guess for a mass production 5kwh battery might be $300. Fitting them to the new generation of smart meters should be a no brainer. Why are you still banging on about the cost of prototypes?

You are still living in the past. Batteries are dropping in price almost exactly in line with the "insane" predictions made by Tony Seba back in 2011. CATL and BYD are both on a path to decrease battery prices this year by as much as 50%, meaning battery packs at the end of 2024 could cost half what they did at the end of 2023. The gouging is happening because the price of electricity is still linked to global gas prices. That will change. Only in your imagination. Dynamic pricing will change that, smoothing out demand and thereby reducing both the amount of electric infrastrure required and wasted renewable power. So cheaper electricity.

I suspect the prisons are already full of the kids who got plenty of smacks. I didn't hit my kids simply because I never came across a situation where the best option was to hit a toddler/child.

You think these views are moderate? Boris banned his MPs from attending.

Care to explain why? A mayor or local authority in the UK could do the same here . IIRC a couple of years ago Boris Jonson banned Conservative MPs from attending the same conference on the grounds that it was an extreme group aiming to ferment division.

Nobody does. Just turn off JavaScript and the paywall goes away.

About time the current situation is a complete mess. Ideally these new meters would come with 5kwh of batteries included. That would hugely decrease the peak network load and save many billions of infrastructure upgrade costs.

Its a pretty good excuse.

As I said upthread tidal is very expensive and hard to justify in the short term. The point I was making is that you continue to make misleading claims about the cost of wind and asking why you do this?

http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN02784/assets/0f37d7d4-7d00-4b1c-9343-0effd980b0a1.png Its perfectly credible. We are not pretty average, we are behind everyone apart from Germany which has the excuse of having to deal a +4% loss of GDP from the loss of access to cheap Russian gas. As the country that suffered the least impact from the Ukraine war we should have been powering ahead. You clearly have not much experience of Physics or enginerring, lots of complimentary/conflicting models exist in both. Basing your views on a completely unevidenced and pretty implausible claim made up by an internet random, just because it fits with what you want to believe is why you never move on.