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...you tell me....but they don't like us, the UK, making "unilateral" decisions which is beyond belief as we are no longer part of the sinking fund, the EU...although the Unions and the Left would not mind us being back in that 'race to the bottom' fold ...

"The bigger picture" is the current recession in the West...the US, Europe and UK....not just in Britain and the so called Left/Right continual cat calling scrap...energy prices and interest rates are soaring in most of the West and in some places it would appear to be part of the plan....that is worrying.

That is an interesting interpretation. When you state "That would mean setting aside his aspiration of breaking the world order", are you referring to the "New World Order"?

....not surprising...after all it is the 'Sunday Guardian' ....they don't get it ...this is a world recession in the West ...they are always provincial (Westminster) ..and parochial ....get the bigger picture ..and that's not a bigger telly screen...

...wef...

...most cars are leased ....such leverage permits individuals to own cars which they would not be able to afford, buying on credit....

From "Bing" as I reminder to myself about what it was like when I married in 1977. Somehow we survived and both still around together today. "The highest UK base rate was 17% in the late 70s when rising wages and oil prices were caused by a surge in inflation. As shown by the graph, partly due to the ERM, the UK base rate was also remarkably high in the early 90s when it averaged around 15%." I don't have the graph showing the 90's (there are many) but I am sure those who were around remember certain "investors" planned against the UK and Sterling. We did better outside the ERM.

Birmingham like any other UK city has heart and soul ..I lived there for a few years before moving to Manchester....have also lived in London (twice), Dundee and Edinburgh. However ignorant people are we have "freedom of speech" in this country. I would not have asked him to leave but I know from such a statement, his experience in life is probably at the best limited.

Putin's speech is a read to understand his viewpoint on the West to the world ..is he right? https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1575987665085702146.html

...also, just passing it on ....Labour and other remainers wish to remain with this lot in the EU ...where do Lewis Hamilton and "Faulty Towers" fit in here... https://www.daimler.com/company/tradition/company-history/1933-1945.html Initially, the company recruited women in order to cope with the required unit volumes. However, as staff numbers were still too low, Daimler-Benz also used forced labourers. These prisoners of war, abducted civilians and detainees from concentration camps were housed close to the plants. Forced labourers from western Europe lived in guest houses, private accommodation or schools. Workers from eastern Europe and prisoners of war were interned in barrack camps with poor, prison-like conditions. Concentration camp detainees were monitored by the SS under inhumane conditions. They were “loaned out” to companies in exchange for money. In 1944, almost half of Daimler Benz’s 63,610 Daimler Benz employees were civilian forced labourers, prisoners of war or concentration camp detainees. After the war, Daimler-Benz admitted its links with the Nazi regime, and also became involved in the German Industry Foundation’s initiative “Remembrance, Responsibility and Future”, whose work included the provision of humanitarian aid for former forced labourers. Wiki Daimler Although Daimler-Benz is best known for its Mercedes-Benz automobile brand, during World War II, it also created a notable series of engines for German aircraft, tanks, and submarines. Its cars became the first choice of many Nazi, Fascist Italian and Japanese officials including Hermann Goring, Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini and Hirohito, who most notably used the Mercedes-Benz 770 luxury car. Daimler also produced parts for German arms, most notably barrels for Mauser Kar98k rifles. During World War II, Daimler-Benz employed the use of over 60,000 concentration camp prisoners and other forced laborers to build machinery. After the war, Daimler admitted to its links and coordination with the Nazi government." Mercedes Benz We’re investigating a group action on behalf of Mercedes BlueTEC owners who’ve been affected by the cheating software which was installed into their vehicles engine and was designed to defeat pollution tests. If you purchased one of the affected vehicles you may be eligible to join.

...going to get some sleep now...

you are correct the cases should read : Italy Coronavirus Cases to date - 21,157 UK Coronavirus Cases to date - 1,372 and that still is out of synch with our 80% which you quote... ...deaths to date are: Italy : 1441 UK: 35

you are correct the cases should read : Italy Coronavirus Cases to date - 21,157 UK Coronavirus Cases to date - 1,372 and that still is out of synch with our 80% which you quote...

"they should buy time with more aggressive social distancing to properly prepare for the controlled outbreak." ...and I refer you to the current UK / Italy figures to help you. You skim your theory without any data to back it up as usual. You are a propagandist with sound bites. Current data: Italy: Population - 60m Coronavirus Deaths to date - 21,157 Deaths - 1,441 UK: Population - 66m Coronavirus Deaths to date - 1,372 Deaths - 35 Italy had their first confirmed death 24 hours before the UK and of course along with current planning the Government are due to introduce more social distancing in the near future .

...that is a disaster recovery worst case scenario plan not actual figures ....kindly comment on the current UK and Italy figures as our histories of the virus are only one day apart and you quoted 20K in Italy v 80% of our 66 million ...do your maths..is that logical : Current data: Italy: Population - 60m Coronavirus Deaths to date - 21,157 Deaths - 1,441 UK: Population - 66m Coronavirus Deaths to date - 1,372 Deaths - 35 Italy had their first confirmed death 24 hours before the UK