BoviBoy Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 The great man speaking. What I would give to see him back in the chamber and hear what he has to say. The Issue is Thatcher (The man was so right) Pit Closures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoviBoy Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 Tony Tells off the BBC and overrides their decision to not broadcast the address for the Gaza Crisis And the Ali G interview (Your living in a world where everyones just so bloody greedy) Retired from politics and still going. State funeral for this man please when he finally leaves us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 this is the man who, on the day the UK went cap in hand for an IMF bailout in the late 1970s, the govt minutes show, chose not to concern himself with the plight of the 10s of millions of britons living in poverty and destitution as a result of failed government (both that Labour govt and the prior tory one) [see Greece for a current equivalent] issues like how do we deal with the financial pain, the riots, the joblessness oh no, he decided to open a discussion in cabinet on the relevance of marx to the modern world Champagne Socialism of the most f*cked up sort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpewLabour Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 this is the man who, on the day the UK went cap in hand for an IMF bailout in the late 1970s, the govt minutes show, chose not to concern himself with the plight of the 10s of millions of britons living in poverty and destitution as a result of failed government (both that Labour govt and the prior tory one) [see Greece for a current equivalent] issues like how do we deal with the financial pain, the riots, the joblessness oh no, he decided to open a discussion in cabinet on the relevance of marx to the modern world Champagne Socialism of the most f*cked up sort Seconded. Tony Benn as one of the key supporters of the formation of British Leyland did more than anyone else to screw up the car industry in this country. And lets not forget that this great champion of the miners closed a large number of pits while Energy Secretary. After the miners strike had ended he tried to introduce a bill to pardon all the miners arrested during the strike period, including the two charmers who dropped a concrete block onto the taxi driver, David Wilkie. When Argentina invaded the Falklands he didn't support an invasion to get them back, but wanted the UN to deal with it. Military dictatorships aren't known for doing what the UN says... A legend indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoviBoy Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 Don't we all now live in a wonderful world because Mr Benn didn't make PM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoviBoy Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 And the lying, thiefing asset stripping crap we've had in over the last 30 years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Horse Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 this is the man who, on the day the UK went cap in hand for an IMF bailout in the late 1970s, the govt minutes show, chose not to concern himself with the plight of the 10s of millions of britons living in poverty and destitution as a result of failed government (both that Labour govt and the prior tory one) [see Greece for a current equivalent] issues like how do we deal with the financial pain, the riots, the joblessness oh no, he decided to open a discussion in cabinet on the relevance of marx to the modern world Champagne Socialism of the most f*cked up sort Perhaps he was dropping a bit of a hint regarding the failings of capitalism - incredibly the financial pain was dealt with very swiftly and the IMF loan was paid back well before expectations. I really like Tony Benn, he is a fantastic orator even if you don't agree with his points he makes life more interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 And the lying, thiefing asset stripping crap we've had in over the last 30 years... you mean the process by which we went from being a poor to a rich country? awful thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 ... the IMF loan was paid back well before expectations. IIRC we never actually borrowed the money although there was an agreement in place if we wanted it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUBanana Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Commissar Benn would probably be trying to shut down the internet like he shut down pirate radio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Horse Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 IIRC we never actually borrowed the money although there was an agreement in place if we wanted it. Apologies - my memory was wrong but I think it was the case that because the UK recovery was so quick, Healey was offered a senior position in the IMF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoviBoy Posted February 28, 2012 Author Share Posted February 28, 2012 you mean the process by which we went from being a poor to a rich country? awful thing... And now quickly on its way to being a third world country. Short term gain for long term pain, no thought for the future. How wonderful it's all turned out pricing your fellow offspring out of their own country just so a certain generation/group could feel rich! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoviBoy Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 Champagne Socialism of the most f*cked up sort Over that thing that created cardboard cities, destroyed communities and industry, forced everyone to have their wages paid into a bank account so that the financial sector could gamble with them, slap a tax on everyone over the age of 18 and force them to pay the exorbitant amount or end up in court even if you didn't earn said money or were lucky enough to have a roof over your head (not even mentioning those houses she freely gave away and refused to build more for people who so desperately needed them). And that war mongering liar and his disgusting wife I'll take Benn, he at least is still fighting for what he believes in. What are the others doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Sadman Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Benn has the luxury of never being PM. I often think of Barry Goldwater or Ron Paul as great statesmen, but neither did or will get the reigns of power. Im sure if either did, they would be a great dissapointment. As im sure Tony Benn would too. A good public speaker, that is all, who should bless his lucky stars he never got to be PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheBlueCat Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 This sums up Benn absolutely perfectly I think. At once thoroughly decent and totally deluded. Apparently he thought the Ali G show was for real and, when someone told him afterwards that it was a joke, he called up Channel 4 to complain! They should give him a state funeral just because it would annoy him so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oracle Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 (edited) Seconded. Tony Benn as one of the key supporters of the formation of British Leyland did more than anyone else to screw up the car industry in this country. And lets not forget that this great champion of the miners closed a large number of pits while Energy Secretary. After the miners strike had ended he tried to introduce a bill to pardon all the miners arrested during the strike period, including the two charmers who dropped a concrete block onto the taxi driver, David Wilkie. When Argentina invaded the Falklands he didn't support an invasion to get them back, but wanted the UN to deal with it. Military dictatorships aren't known for doing what the UN says... A legend indeed. british leyland might have worked if it wasn't so polarised between sweatshop-owning masters and commie trade unions. a bit of sensible dialogue would have sufficed. ie factory owner says...OK, here's the deal...we are losing market share because quite frankly our cars are getting a reputation for being unreliable and the engineering is better on the continent...I'll make you a deal. ...improve your quality/reliability and get us a 20% improvement on our present sales/profitability(with repeat business), I'll give employees a blanket 20% profit share-not an annual pay rise..because the market can and will fluctuate..but a performance related incentive.(or you can mix and match that 20% with some better working practices...in fact if you choose that route the company will match that percentage as it will aid us as well as you. that means if you fail, you do not get any sweeties.end of. we work together, we will both benefit but there are no free lunches. Edited March 15, 2014 by oracle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narvick Devil Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 There are only 2 types of people "There are Wealth generators and Wealth owners" TonyBenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamnumerate Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Commissar Benn would probably be trying to shut down the internet like he shut down pirate radio. Very true - I hope none of his fans listen to commercial radio, if they do they are hypocrites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail the Tripod Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 George Osborne is seemingly unable to shake off G i d e o n just because it sounds a bit posher, but Tony Benn never gets referred to as Viscount Anthony Neil Wedgwood Benn. Self-righteous, over-privileged idiots the pair of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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