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#91 MOP

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 02:48 PM

the poor man's Eammon Holmes does a lot of that

unlike someone like James Whale who (like him or not) has a definite opinion, Nolan just swings back and forth, in a pathetic attempt to try and annoy the listeners.


I miss James Whale. He is only on London radio now i think.
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Posted 11 November 2008 - 06:53 PM

I miss James Whale. He is only on London radio now i think.

IIRC it's Talksport

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 07:30 PM

IIRC it's Talksport

Sadly he was sacked from Talksport earlier this year. For being too anti-Broon. Labour had him kicked off air.
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Posted 11 November 2008 - 07:38 PM

Good performance in NI there
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Posted 11 November 2008 - 08:11 PM

Solid performance from FP once again.

Putting to one side Nolan's constant shouting, and hectoring 'pub bore' manner, his cheap attempt to curry favour with the home crowd by painting FP as an almost anti-Ireland outsider was about the most transparent bit of crowd pleasing I've seen in a long time.

The EA was a joke. Housing is affordable one moment - but once a young female would-be FTB phones in and says its not - he agrees!. Cheap suit, cheap guy.

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 08:45 PM

Class job FP. I made that 5-0 to you. I was thinking just the other day that it had been a long time since you graced our televison screens. Any more apparances in the pipeline or has comrade Brown banned you from the airwaves ?


Just one thought - if you get a chance could you counter the doom and gloom angle ? Its so often repeated without question that people really do believe that falling houseprices = doom and gloom. Judging by the balance of calls and texts into the studio I think the majority of people want prices to come down further.

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 08:51 PM

Class job FP. I made that 5-0 to you. I was thinking just the other day that it had been a long time since you graced our televison screens. Any more apparances in the pipeline or has comrade Brown banned you from the airwaves ?


Just one thought - if you get a chance could you counter the doom and gloom angle ? Its so often repeated without question that people really do believe that falling houseprices = doom and gloom. Judging by the balance of calls and texts into the studio I think the majority of people want prices to come down further.


I disagree - FP is doing a great job and "countering" may be counter-productive. His refusal to take the bait and lose control is very much in his favour. I think if he says anything it should be something like, "Call me what you like, I'm only interested in getting it right."

Interestingly, the audience seemed a lot smarter and switched on than the idiots that were phoning in, the presenter (who seems very good at what he does, odious tho it is...), and the incoherent EA.

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 11:14 PM

Just watched the show on iplayer.

The Nolan was a disgusting host, FP was treat terribly. Pathetic.

And the caller saying he was disgusted with FPs predictions....

The EA was a total loony.

FP is too good for garbage like that.
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Posted 11 November 2008 - 11:31 PM

Just watched the show on iplayer.

The Nolan was a disgusting host, FP was treat terribly. Pathetic.

And the caller saying he was disgusted with FPs predictions....

The EA was a total loony.

FP is too good for garbage like that.


Terrible. He told Nolan a year ago what would happen and Nolan is still following the same line as he did then. He should be saying "How did you know this would happen?" and "Thank you for warning us about this". Instead he just reverts to "It is people like you that caused this!" and "Do not dare slag off my country!".

Edited by Master Of Puppets, 11 November 2008 - 11:32 PM.

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Contsruct: Put together between three and seven well-spaced lines of OTT blind optimism. Steer well clear of economics and stick to spurious anecdotals and the odd wild prediction. Finish off with "I told you so". Maximum impact, minimum detail. Nice!
Target: Find a thread with plenty of action going on. A "green shoots" thread is preferable, but any thread started by a fellow Bull usually works. If Harry Monk is there, even better!
Deploy: When it's least expected, throw the thread bomb into the target area and quickly move to a safe distance. Watch the thread bomb go off and create chaos among the Bears. Wait a while, then throw another one in for good measure. Job done.


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Posted 12 November 2008 - 09:34 AM

Terrible. He told Nolan a year ago what would happen and Nolan is still following the same line as he did then. He should be saying "How did you know this would happen?" and "Thank you for warning us about this". Instead he just reverts to "It is people like you that caused this!" and "Do not dare slag off my country!".


Don't get annoyed, you're playing into his hands. His job is to rile you by taking up contrary positions, and he does it well. He was pretty abrasive with the EA too, and even with the audience - did you see him laugh at the guy who bought two properties last year!?

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 07:17 PM

Just watched the show. Well done FP for staying calm with Nolan on one side of you and the EA on the other. I think it was a fair discussion, and the messages accross the bottom of the screen said it all really.

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 09:03 PM

Just watched this on iplayer - great job FP!

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 11:19 PM

At least you are Scottish so will get away with it. Might be useful to point out that prices for larger houses in towns like Newtownards and Bangor nevermind the better bits of Belfast were getting close to the same levels as Alderley Edge in Cheshire or nice parts of southern England where the average income is probably three times higher.

I am from NI originally and have relatives still over and hear hilarious/bizarre/sad stories about the last three years. NI was truly dot.com in its silliness.



Thanks for getting my little point in FP! Gave me a big cheshire grin when I watched it on Iplayer. And though Nolan really didn't like the point, it is utterly true, as the ridiculous £3.4m house in Malone in Belfast cited earlier on this thread and marketed by your EA opponent on the show demonstrates. I live in Bramhall and the same house would have an asking price at between £1.5m to £1.75m at absolute tops. Bramhall is a good equivalent of Malone, and I would think has equivalent average earnings. In a rational economic setting, Malone house prices wouldn't get anywhere near Alderley Edge/Prestbury, and I have serious doubts as to whether the equivalent house in Alderley Edge would have an asking price near the Malone house mentioned above. Just shows how ridiculous NI is.

I don't think Nolan was that aggressive actually - that is just his manner and anyone who watches the show (as I do when visiting family back home) knows that and would take his challenges with a pinch of salt.

Nolan did point out that young FTB couples were delighted with prices falling and that they didn't care about developers and banks. He also read out loads of bearish texts. Took the piss out of the lad who bought 2 houses. I think he was very fair overall. An NI presenter can just be a bit more lively than the staid brit equivalent ;)

The EA would have been taken for what he was by NI people - making the best of a bad job.


Oh, just one little thing... your specs are probably very expensive, but a bit shiny for TV.... really :blink:

Overall, I thought it was a win for HPC, but suspect that a live studio audience is less your forte than a one on one interview with a dedicated news journalist. A live studio audience format is much more difficult than some of the usual harpers who criticise on here could possibly imagine.
QUOTE (Young Goat @ Dec 2 2008, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Of course the problem is the bubble has been going on for so long now that people have forgotten how cheap they used to be.


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Posted 13 November 2008 - 12:45 PM

Just watched it on iplayer - well done FP!

You managed to stay calm and collected. When you pointed out that falls of 50% were predicted a year ago and that 30% falls had happened already the EA looked a tad pale! :lol: I notice that the EA did not have a response for that little piece of info!

The ignorant caller was probably a little feckwit fed up with people viewing his property and only putting in "silly/insulting" offers :lol: They don't like it when they can't find another greater fool!

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 07:14 PM

a gift for anyone who watched this
very funny

http://www.belfastte...8595.html?r=RSS

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