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The mental pain that constant moving or the threat of moving is totally under estimated in the UK. If the UK is going to go down the rental road where every hairdresser, plumber, MP, violent criminal or Russian nutter is housing the millions of forced renters then it's about time we made them run it like a business like they constantly claim they are doing and not forever having the mindset that they will just kick their tenants out on a whim when they have had enough, and if they are going to do that then they compensate their tenant big time.

I know too many people that have had numerous addresses over the last decade through no fault of their own, some even in double figures, this is no way to live for most people, I will even go as far as saying it is mentally very damaging

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55 minutes ago, CunningPlan said:

I have no idea how you make that connection.

The inland revenue have no interest or need to negotiate, and neither do LLs. The tide may turn, but if you think the average LL is just waiting for the chance to reduce his power, probably break his mortgage terms, and lock himself in unnecessarily for absolutely no reason, then I've got a bridge to sell you.

I'm sure there are exceptions at the high and high-mid range rentals, but that's it.

I love this notion that all tenants need to do is to start waving their dicks around.

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51 minutes ago, inbruges said:

I know too many people that have had numerous addresses over the last decade through no fault of their own, some even in double figures

20 years renting. 17 addresses. Longest let 4 years. Shortest 2 months. Lots of different reasons for the moves; too long, boring and personal to list here. Includes 5 no fault evictions. Will probably move again within a year. It's modern life for many. My uncle jokes that my addresses fill up more of his address book than all the others put together.
 

3 minutes ago, tomandlu said:

I love this notion that all tenants need to do is to start waving their dicks around.

I think I shared with that guy. 

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28 minutes ago, Parkwell said:

20 years renting. 17 addresses. Longest let 4 years. Shortest 2 months. Lots of different reasons for the moves; too long, boring and personal to list here. Includes 5 no fault evictions. Will probably move again within a year. It's modern life for many. My uncle jokes that my addresses fill up more of his address book than all the others put together.
 

How does that effect you mentally, maybe you don't even know yourself. People cannot live like this, should not live like this.

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2 hours ago, inbruges said:

How does that effect you mentally, maybe you don't even know yourself. People cannot live like this, should not live like this.

I'm sure it affects people in different ways. A lot of my moves have been to find better job/life opportunities for work or study or careers for me and later my wife. I've grown up with a sense that from university age onwards there are a lot of pressures that encourage you to keep moving if you want to succeed, unless you happen to be born into an area with good work options that suit you. It's one reason why I talk about an uneven economy. Lots of places with little/no future for it's young so they start to move long distances. I'm not a very social person but I think community has suffered as more people find it hard to settle down. It's difficult to build networks of friends/family/support. You stop joining things because you're just going to leave in 6 months anyway. It doesn't help that I come from an already fractured family strewn about the country. Maybe I should have started my own business somewhere but it's never felt like an option. Add in the evictions and life starts to be nomadic. I'd like to settle down but it's not always been in my/our best interests. There are a lot of conflicting feelings. Life is hard. We get on with it. Just my experience. However, I'm an expert at packing boxes.

 

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3 hours ago, tomandlu said:

The inland revenue have no interest or need to negotiate, and neither do LLs. The tide may turn, but if you think the average LL is just waiting for the chance to reduce his power, probably break his mortgage terms, and lock himself in unnecessarily for absolutely no reason, then I've got a bridge to sell you.

I'm sure there are exceptions at the high and high-mid range rentals, but that's it.

I love this notion that all tenants need to do is to start waving their dicks around.

This. 

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1 hour ago, Parkwell said:

I'm sure it affects people in different ways. A lot of my moves have been to find better job/life opportunities for work or study or careers for me and later my wife. I've grown up with a sense that from university age onwards there are a lot of pressures that encourage you to keep moving if you want to succeed, unless you happen to be born into an area with good work options that suit you. It's one reason why I talk about an uneven economy. Lots of places with little/no future for it's young so they start to move long distances. I'm not a very social person but I think community has suffered as more people find it hard to settle down. It's difficult to build networks of friends/family/support. You stop joining things because you're just going to leave in 6 months anyway. It doesn't help that I come from an already fractured family strewn about the country. Maybe I should have started my own business somewhere but it's never felt like an option. Add in the evictions and life starts to be nomadic. I'd like to settle down but it's not always been in my/our best interests. There are a lot of conflicting feelings. Life is hard. We get on with it. Just my experience. However, I'm an expert at packing boxes.

 

+1

Very interesting, and thanks for sharing that.

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On 13/04/2018 at 3:20 PM, Locke said:

This is Communist. The State should have no power to interfere in this way.

Completely disagree. It may be one step along the way, but if someone who has their shit together gets evicted, they won't just end up homeless.

Funny, this is the system that works and houses people completely satisfactorily in much of Europe. 

A functioning rental system should provide a secure house for people to raise families, not suffer the whims of some shark. If said shark wants to rent out property they should have to guarantee that the house is the tenants as long as they pay rent and observe correct behaviour. 

6 hours ago, Locke said:

Have you lived in Germany? There are plenty of homeless and base don the experiences of my sister, they simply institutionalise undesirables, which is hardly a humane solution.

No need to mince words here, you're a complete idiot. And a liar.

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5 hours ago, tomandlu said:

The inland revenue have no interest or need to negotiate, and neither do LLs. The tide may turn, but if you think the average LL is just waiting for the chance to reduce his power, probably break his mortgage terms, and lock himself in unnecessarily for absolutely no reason, then I've got a bridge to sell you.

I'm sure there are exceptions at the high and high-mid range rentals, but that's it.

I love this notion that all tenants need to do is to start waving their dicks around.

If you are renting at LHA rates then I would agree.

Anything above that, if you want to bend over and take it that is up to you.

Perhaps if more tenants realised that they are actually the customer and acted as such they might get a better deal.

Have you even ever tried to negotiate a four year deal?

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18 hours ago, CunningPlan said:

If you are renting at LHA rates then I would agree.

Anything above that, if you want to bend over and take it that is up to you.

Perhaps if more tenants realised that they are actually the customer and acted as such they might get a better deal.

Have you even ever tried to negotiate a four year deal?

Yep

(Waves dick)

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6 minutes ago, PopGun said:

Yep

(Waves dick)

Not entirely sure what you are saying here.

But I am quite happy finding a landlord / property that suits me and walking away from those that don't.

Sensible landlords (and they do exist) don't like voids.

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1 minute ago, CunningPlan said:

Not entirely sure what you are saying here.

But I am quite happy finding a landlord / property that suits me and walking away from those that don't.

Sensible landlords (and they do exist) don't like voids.

Keyword there is sensible.

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1 hour ago, dugsbody said:

Really interesting, I was not aware. Good stuff.

Neither was I until earlier today. Could be a bit of a game changer as it means you don't need to look for unmortgaged landlords to get the deal you want.

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On 16/04/2018 at 10:10 PM, CunningPlan said:

If you are renting at LHA rates then I would agree.

Anything above that, if you want to bend over and take it that is up to you.

Perhaps if more tenants realised that they are actually the customer and acted as such they might get a better deal.

Have you even ever tried to negotiate a four year deal?

yep. Sadly often end up with the landlord calling my bluff, and then me leaving anyway. Leaving them with a void for several months, where one month void would of covered my rent reduction request for 2 years. 

 

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On 4/13/2018 at 3:20 PM, Locke said:
  On 4/13/2018 at 12:35 PM, fru-gal said:

Landlords cannot raise rents by more than the rate of inflation.

Prices should be dictated by and demand govt govt policy. 

 

On 4/13/2018 at 5:30 PM, goldbug9999 said:

To be honest GR piss me off because they are always campaigning for scraps from the table rather than systemic change. I dont want legislation to protect me, I want cheaper sodding housing.

Howe do you see that being achieved? 

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On 4/14/2018 at 8:43 AM, BuyToLeech said:

Landlords are the state - they govern land and tax its inhabitants.    

 

absolute rubbish

 

On 4/14/2018 at 8:43 AM, BuyToLeech said:

Without state interference, no-one gets to tell anyone where they can and can’t live.   We’d build houses where we wanted, and landlords would be told to go and ****** themselves.  

So you want the whole countryside covered in houses.  No consideration  for wildlife?  Conservation.  The rich tapestry of the UK?  No one told me where to live.  

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On 4/14/2018 at 6:40 PM, dougless said:

And the ultra low interest rates that are slowly destroying the productive economy.

Have you ever run your own business ?  I assume not. 

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20 minutes ago, happyguy said:

Have you ever run your own business ?  I assume not. 

Some businesses do better in a low interest environment. Interest rates represent the time cost (price) of money. What destroys the economy is the use of violence to manipulate the price of money.

 

If you think low interest rates are de facto good for businesses, you are an idiot and likely a parasite.

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