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Help to "Buy" (Sell) to be pumped up

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12 minutes ago, Noallegiance said:

If it's a case that they throw more at it and still the 'market' fails, even better.

Not if it adds another five years to the process it isnt.

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23 minutes ago, Lavalas said:

Why, have they got a new prop or something?

Hopefully we'll see a backlash against this madness, the MSM are supporting them tho.

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Some good comments from McDonnell on Help to Buy. Unfortunately no explanation of why extending it to 2027 is Labour policy.

No word from Jezza. He comes across as slightly doddery and I do wonder whether he has managed to see past the rhetoric of "helping young people get on the ladder."

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To crash house prices, it should be a new party. Existing parties just want to play magical chairs.

£10 billion HTB means £200 billion worth homes sales.

This bubble is mother of all bubbles. Going on and on for years.

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4 hours ago, longgone said:

it is basically a scrappage scheme for overpriced cr*p built housing .  anyone buying a new build and using this scheme needs a mri scan. maybe if the developer knocked 30% off the price and then use the scheme it might make sense :lol: i might try that.

You are still buying the same shitty building built from cardboard and straw ...

Best buy the better second hand stock from bricks n mortar.

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2 hours ago, keeprenting said:

No word from Jezza. He comes across as slightly doddery and I do wonder whether he has managed to see past the rhetoric of "helping young people get on the ladder."

Jezza is like every other politician.

You know the story, once they get the sniff of power, they become self serving power hungry wankers, water down or remove any popular policies that got them elected and simply follow the VI.

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I just think all of them are completely out of touch, the Tories are driven by money and labour by power plus some ideals.

Maybe at some point a leader will appear who will use the problem to gain power, but that certainly seems a long way off at the moment.

Actually, my other line of thought is that this type of thing could actually hasten a crash, the only way to fix the issues they throw debt at is less debt and wage rises. 

Hammond today managed to make Osborne look good, Johnson just wants power, Davis is clueless and May is just completely out of her depth. She really did just fluke the leadership.

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reported on the BBC that Hammond said the young felt the housing market was rigged against them...I wonder where he got that idea.? At the same conference they announced more money for schemes to rig the market to inflate prices....have I fallen down a rabbit hole...????

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9 hours ago, Bruce Banner said:

They have only known debt.

Yes, I was chatting to a 16 year old, and a (very?) rare beast at that- an ideological conservative. Radio was on, news bulletin led with May's 'appeal to younger voters' via tuition fee freeze /HTB came up. The young person (easily smart enough to go to uni) was of the view that it was good news. I think it was just a Pavlovian response to support a Con Govt, but a little bit of me died inside regardless.

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49 minutes ago, Wayward said:

reported on the BBC that Hammond said the young felt the housing market was rigged against them...I wonder where he got that idea.? At the same conference they announced more money for schemes to rig the market to inflate prices....have I fallen down a rabbit hole...????

I don't get it either. They state that they will continue with help to buy and two days later Hammond is saying that free markets were the only, not merely the best, way to improve living standards and underpin free societies. I'm pulling my hair out! Surely funding help to buy means it's not a free market. What am I missing? 

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7 minutes ago, winkie said:

They talk to people as if they are stupid....are that gullible to believe all the nonsense.;)

Maybe this is the case. Tell them don't worry, it'll be alright, you'll have it better than your parents, believe uncle Philip. Sad thing is that I think one of the main reasons people under 35 haven't got angry with the situation in the UK is that they look at their boomer parents (who are often less educated) and believe it's just a matter of waiting a few years until they will have the same.

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1 hour ago, UnconventionalWisdom said:

I don't get it either. They state that they will continue with help to buy and two days later Hammond is saying that free markets were the only, not merely the best, way to improve living standards and underpin free societies. I'm pulling my hair out! Surely funding help to buy means it's not a free market. What am I missing? 

Nothing.

You can rig what you want (housing)and leave what you want to a free market (cheap labour zero hrs contracts)

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1 hour ago, UnconventionalWisdom said:

Sad thing is that I think one of the main reasons people under 35 haven't got angry with the situation in the UK

People under 35 are extremely fed up with the situation in the UK hence the rise of Corbyn, the collapse of the Lib Dems and the near extinction of the under 45 Tory voter. All 3 main parties are feeling that youth anger now.

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