SarahBell Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Cull the epidemic of local authority officers earning so much money.Why does anyone in local gov need to earn more than the prime minister? Cull the number of executive posts. http://web.archive.org/web/20130728062347/http://chronic-oldham.co.uk/ombcsalaries.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canbuywontbuy Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Why is the UK borrowing £10Bn a month? What possible cuts can be made to reduce that to zero? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frugal Git Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Put an end to all pensions apart from a decent Basic State pension augmented by Super ISAs that people would have access to and have to dip into first before asking for help from other people. (That would have the benefit of getting rid of a large slice of the City and its buildings made of marble and the tax avoiding accountancy profession). Agreed, but put an end to the state pension too - including for those who thought they had 'paid' for it through their working life. Give me the tax and ni payment you're taking on my behalf to pay for those people and I'll deal with funding my future thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipllman Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 indeed, the state is too large too many Lords too many MPs too many Mayors too many councillors too many council employees too many NHS management too many people that are not on the frontline in every single government department trouble is that if you sack them all, what then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gf3 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Have free school meals two meals a day and then get rid of all child benefits. Could even have a clothes bank at the school so those parents that want to pay for new clothes for their kids can and those that cant be bothered don't have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StainlessSteelCat Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 indeed, the state is too large too many Lords too many MPs too many Mayors too many councillors too many council employees too many NHS management too many people that are not on the frontline in every single government department trouble is that if you sack them all, what then? Yes, Parliament especially. These parasites don't represent us so why pay for so many of them? I'll also scrapping all benefits to the royal family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko2010 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Gidiot won't but, the easiest way is to get rid of the 'ring fenced' foreign aid aka foreign bribe that doesn't benefit the intended people. Ban local councils from spending millions on translating material into Arabic, Pashto, in fact any language except English, Welsh (a drop in the ocean but a personal bugbear). End the £3bn/year agricultural subsidy. End all MPs right to claim expenses. On the subject of Lords, aren't they unpaid (excluding expenses) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashmonitor Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Agreed, but put an end to the state pension too - including for those who thought they had 'paid' for it through their working life. Give me the tax and ni payment you're taking on my behalf to pay for those people and I'll deal with funding my future thanks. Still have to support those that put nothing aside with a minimum income guarantee. Probably doing away with DLA., a state pension on speed and an incentive to get disabled, would be fairer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gf3 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Why is the UK borrowing £10Bn a month? What possible cuts can be made to reduce that to zero? I think the answer is because people are saving £10Bn a month the government has to borrow that money and recycle it back into the economy. If people stopped saving and started spending instead we wouldn't need the government to drive the economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R K Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 None. Remove 40% pension subsidy. Tax land. Raise marginal higher rate to 70-80% or so. Increase spending on care & higher education (not student debt) There is no debt problem. You've all been fooled by Mr Osbourne's evil plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeryMeanReversion Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Remove 40% pension subsidy. Raise marginal higher rate to 70-80% or so. Marginal rates aren't far of that for some cases. I've pointed out on another thread that I am now turning down higher paid jobs and evening consultancy work as the marginal benefit after tax/costs is now negligible, even for well paid contracts. High marginal rates => no motivation => less work. With your proposal, I would prefer to do consulting for 2 days a week and just get by or just go back to working in the US. One colleague is down to a 4 day week after realising he wasn't getting any marginal income for Fridays after allowing for commute costs. I don't really mind what the rules are, but I will adapt my behaviour to whatever you/they come up with. What I won't do is "OK, take whatever you want and I will work extra for you". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetcat Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 40% cut to MP salaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtomsilver Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 None. Remove 40% pension subsidy. Tax land. Raise marginal higher rate to 70-80% or so. Increase spending on care & higher education (not student debt) There is no debt problem. You've all been fooled by Mr Osbourne's evil plan. It's not really a pension subsidy, rather a vehicle to deferred taxation. Remove the only benefit for higher rate payers and you remove the incentive for pension savings altogether. For sure the 40% will be replaced with a 30% uplift for all taxpayers but then (and even now) maximising ISA savings over pension savings is the way forwards. A bird in the hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gf3 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I think you'll find it is not domestic 'saving' on the whole, but the trade deficit. I don't think that makes any difference. I have spent quite a bit of time thinking about this. From what I can work out when the government borrow money it doesn't increase broad money supply. All they are borrowing is dormant money lying in peoples accounts. If on aggregate people are never going to spend that money where's the problem? The markets don't seem to be worried about. I can only conclude that either they don't know or they don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assume The Opposite Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 We had a debt to GDP of roughly 250% after WW2. We then invested in country long term. There is no debt problem, it's just another CONservative policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juvenal Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Gidiot won't but, the easiest way is to get rid of the 'ring fenced' foreign aid aka foreign bribe that doesn't benefit the intended people. Ban local councils from spending millions on translating material into Arabic, Pashto, in fact any language except English, Welsh (a drop in the ocean but a personal bugbear). End the £3bn/year agricultural subsidy. End all MPs right to claim expenses. On the subject of Lords, aren't they unpaid (excluding expenses) £300 expenses a day. They need only show up, catch the Clerk's eye, trouser the dough, and leave - off to collect the rent from their BTL's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybong Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Cut back on the number of traffic wardens and suchlike. Cut back on the fund raising parking restrictions and raise money by scrapping the parking meters and other associated machines and street signs/furniture introduced after the economic collapse and introduced to provide funds for council executive wages and pensions. That would also help local retailers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meerkat Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 None. Remove 40% pension subsidy. Tax land. Raise marginal higher rate to 70-80% or so. Increase spending on care & higher education (not student debt) There is no debt problem. You've all been fooled by Mr Osbourne's evil plan. Comedy gold... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shindigger Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 indeed, the state is too large too many Lords too many MPs too many Mayors too many councillors too many council employees too many NHS management too many people that are not on the frontline in every single government department trouble is that if you sack them all, what then? And then theres the Europeans.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gf3 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Give student doctors free education and a top of the range BMW this would cost £100,000. When they qualify they will be looking at a £50,000 a year job instead of a £100,000 because of laws of supply and demand. Get the £100,000 back in two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erat_forte Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I think that if there was a universal citizens income funded by a land value tax, then all other taxation and all other government spending could be abolished. The military could be volunteers / pay per use. Justice also, health education etc. No need for arts or agricultural subsidies, people could just get on with it in their own time. No 'sin taxes' - no income tax - what really is the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oracle Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Cull the epidemic of local authority officers earning so much money. Why does anyone in local gov need to earn more than the prime minister? Cull the number of executive posts. http://web.archive.org/web/20130728062347/http://chronic-oldham.co.uk/ombcsalaries.html said before. abolish vehicle excise duty. put a few p on a gallon of petrol, and banded price for MOT tests.(cheap as chips 60mpg diesel runaround is £35 up to chelsea tractor at £100) more than makes up the shortfall, and frees up a load of pen-pushers to do something rather more constructive.(not to mention horriffic amounts of lawyers fees..that frankly should be used for prosecuting more important stuff) ...same as bbc really innit...the legal profession love it because they get a nice little money spinner for trivial cases..but the fact is,we have too many absurd laws to make the country productive. I would,however, start dialogue with say france/germany on a european standard of MOT for commercial vehicles,and so spot inspections at dover/felixtowe, to make sure the incoming vehicles are up to a decent standard. restriction of travel/7 day producer if they are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Have free school meals two meals a day and then get rid of all child benefits. Could even have a clothes bank at the school so those parents that want to pay for new clothes for their kids can and those that cant be bothered don't have to. What happens to the kiddies during the school holidays? Do they just starve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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