OnionTerror Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2947293/Premier-League-rights-retained-Sky-BT-Sport-record-5-bn-deal-Sky-s-monopoly-Sunday-games-broken.html 2nd richest franchise behind the NFL, and more than the budget of the entire BBC.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Of Highbridge Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I guess the revenue from sky sports + additions must be funding this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnionTerror Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 Smazeballs (I think when they tot up all the EPL rights across the world, you may find it bigger than the NFL) I was reading a similar article on the NFL recently, and the league had sold the rights to 8 games to CBS for $300m.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venger Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Can't see any problem with it - pure capitalism. If any market participant gets things wrong, opportunity for others to step in and get control at lower prices. A few days ago, before the big Everton vs Liverpool derby match. BBC reporter receives surprise as he unknowingly interviews former Liverpool goalkeeper Tommy Lawrence on the street Reporter approached elderly man to talk about previous Merseyside games He asked the man whether he remembered the 1967 FA Cup game The man turned out to be former Liverpool goalkeeper Tommy Lawrence Lawrence was in goal for Liverpool during the match at Goodison Park By Daniel PrescottPublished: 12:26, 9 February 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2945847/BBC-reporter-receives-surprise-unknowingly-interviews-former-Liverpool-goalkeeper-Tommy-Lawrence-street.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnionTerror Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 Can't see any problem with it - pure capitalism. If any market participant gets things wrong, opportunity for others to step in and get control at lower prices. Sky's entire business is built around their football coverage...without it, they have nothing..They've just set the precedence for even higher prices, esp. as no else (apart from BT) were sniffing around... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Football and house prices two sides of the same mania. One subsidised by mugs who subscribe to SKY TV, the other subsidised by mugs who vote for the government., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Sky's entire business is built around their football coverage...without it, they have nothing..They've just set the precedence for even higher prices, esp. as no else (apart from BT) were sniffing around... You do wonder how much higher they can pump up this business model, once consumers stop buying into it they are going to be screwed. I wonder how much the sky sports subscription is going to go up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 BT and Sky pay 70pc more to secure Premier League rights BT and Sky win rights to broadcast Premier League matches over the next three years, but companies face a bill of £5.14bn to secure rights, representing inflation of more than 70pc Wow if that inflation keeps up pretty soon the Premier League will be the UK economy!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John The Pessimist Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Wow if that inflation keeps up pretty soon the Premier League will be the UK economy!!! Maybe the increase in Sky subscription prices will give the HPC we've been waiting for? Instead of a Canadian raising IRs triggering the crash, it'll be Aussies raising cable TV prices..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddog Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I am sure Sky worked out what they could afford to pay, and they seem to know what they are doing: http://www.wsj.com/articles/sky-profit-more-than-doubles-1423035304 .....but it seems like too much to me. Didn't football rights bankrupt ITV digital and Setanta?! A couple of thoughts: 1) With they expanded number of matches, they will probably have to show a few more "Southampton vs Burnley" type games (sorry if your a fan of either of these clubs!!). People are still interested in the mega games, but judging by the fact the media are giving more coverage to mega Euro clubs like Barcelona and Bayern Munich at the expense of everyone other than the top top Premier league clubs, couldn't this be a problem? 2) One big trend in the US is "cable cutters", i.e. people just giving up their TV subscription and just buying what they want series by series, lets see how this works out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olde guto Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I wouldn't give two hoots about this if the £5bn was going to be paid out of personal and pub subscriptions. Trouble is there will be TV adverts and probably sponsorship deals and this money indirectly comes from us (including those who don't have Sky or even a TV) - the ultimate stealth tax I suppose. Personally I'd love to have seen the likes of Netflix or Amazon get involved in bidding and fragment things a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie_George Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 The question is: Are phone and broadband users subsidising this via their line rental and fees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddog Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 The question is: Are phone and broadband users subsidising this via their line rental and fees? I would have thoughts so, a good reason to vote with your feet and move?(apart from BT having a monopoly on the last mile on landline/broadband) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Didn't the increase in the regulated landline prices get spent on their entry into rights? So all users of BT's copper wire will be paying for BT customers' sports rights. EDIT: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-2334375/BT-pushes-line-rental-fee-pay-sports-rights.html BT line rental the benchmark for others. Ever upwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venger Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I am sure Sky worked out what they could afford to pay, and they seem to know what they are doing: http://www.wsj.com/articles/sky-profit-more-than-doubles-1423035304 .....but it seems like too much to me. Didn't football rights bankrupt ITV digital and Setanta?! Partly where my mind is; - although I admit to having BT Sport (only watched one match on it), only because it came with the package - after o2 broadband was bought by Sky, and I couldn't handle sluggish performance vs experience of o2, and migrated to BT (well the landlord arranged it). I have lethargy now when it comes to football, vs some years ago. There's costs - business has to balance it . We take commercial risks. If it unwinds, then someone else steps in (preferably younger and with new ideas) and buys at a lower price, tries to restructure, and make some money for themselves. It's capitalism. Booms, people-thinking-super-intelligent, and busts. MySpace sold to Justin Timberlake-backed ad agency by News Corp Music star and actor Justin Timberlake has teamed up with a US advertising agency to buy MySpace for $35m (£22m) – just 6pc of the amount Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp paid for the business. 30 Jun 2011 [..]The price paid falls short of the $100m News Corp is believed to have wanted and is a fraction of the $580m that Mr Murdoch handed over for the then dominant site in 2005. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/8607207/MySpace-sold-to-Justin-Timberlake-backed-ad-agency-by-News-Corp.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venger Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Maybe the increase in Sky subscription prices will give the HPC we've been waiting for? Instead of a Canadian raising IRs triggering the crash, it'll be Aussies raising cable TV prices..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwin Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 The question is: Are phone and broadband users subsidising this via their line rental and fees? I guess so. Yet another reason to switch out of BT cos I ain't paying for this crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Bear Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 All that lovely football money - just ripe for Osborne to think up a nice new tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jemmy Button Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 A lot of people who I know don't have Sky/BT but still watch all the Sky/BT games online. Saved themselves a fortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 This doesn't sit well.....vote with feet. Will no longer attend any further live games, will not be renewing season ticket.....football is no longer the game it used to be, now something completely different in so many ways, most of the new ways not for the better sadly...yet another loss. Not all bad....what is saved not attending can be spent on the ever increasing land line cost increased well over the rate of inflation in recent years....self inflicted deflation in action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 This doesn't sit well.....vote with feet. Will no longer attend any further live games, will not be renewing season ticket.....football is no longer the game it used to be, now something completely different in so many ways, most of the new ways not for the better sadly...yet another loss. Many people now think that. It's not about the football/sport. It's about the big business/marketing, the agents and the hanger-ons Why would anyone pay so much to watch 22 foreign multi-millionaires kick a ball about? I'm just peeved because somewhere along the line some of these costs will be passed onto me, as someone pointed out, the advertisers ( who sell us products ) will ultimately pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Many people now think that. It's not about the football/sport. It's about the big business/marketing, the agents and the hanger-ons Why would anyone pay so much to watch 22 foreign multi-millionaires kick a ball about? I'm just peeved because somewhere along the line some of these costs will be passed onto me, as someone pointed out, the advertisers ( who sell us products ) will ultimately pay. We all have a pot available to spend....they can't have it all ways, higher season tickets,entry,subscriptions,line rental,broadband,football shirts and merchandise..... So it up to us how we choose to spend the allocated pot.....hopefully our choices mean there is more left in the pot for us.....one thing not to do if not in agreement to how things are being done is increase that pot to fit their agenda......that is what they want you to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 We all have a pot available to spend....they can't have it all ways, higher season tickets,entry,subscriptions,line rental,broadband,football shirts and merchandise..... So it up to us how we choose to spend the allocated pot.....hopefully our choices mean there is more left in the pot for us.....one thing not to do if not in agreement to how things are being done is increase that pot to fit their agenda......that is what they want you to do. I heard on talk sport the other day, something long the lines of, A Sunderland fan was up in arms about season ticket prices as he could hardly afford them with his benefits!!!! My pot is being taken off me so others can spend it at their leisure, for their leisure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venger Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I heard on talk sport the other day, something long the lines of, A Sunderland fan was up in arms about season ticket prices as he could hardly afford them with his benefits!!!! My pot is being taken off me so others can spend it at their leisure, for their leisure. A bit like that Newcastle fan who punched that horse, either in run up to, or after the match... on benefits since 2005 with a 'rare lung condition'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 A bit like that Newcastle fan who punched that horse, either in run up to, or after the match... on benefits since 2005 with a 'rare lung condition'. Something is far wrong with the benefits system when you can afford to pay multi-millionaires wages with your benefits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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