The Masked Tulip Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Do you think schools will be planning school trips to visit? Tower of London. Bristol Zoom. Blenheim Palace. National Sperm Bank? No? Apparently there is not only a shortage of sperm but a shortage of the right kind of sperm. They need more ehtnic minorities. On Sky News this morning did the female Sky journo seem to get quite excited when confronted with giant metal containers full of frozen sperm - had to had a look inside and was shown a vial of frozen sperm. Spermicle? Sperm on a stick? I believe I am correct in saying that sperm donations in the UK plunged when Labour changed the rules and chased sperm donors for child maintenance payments? Apparently we import lots of sperm nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 QE needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sPinwheel Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I believe I am correct in saying that sperm donations in the UK plunged when Labour changed the rules and chased sperm donors for child maintenance payments? Really? What a fecking stupid thng to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Really? What a fecking stupid thng to do. My mistake. If you do it via a registered UK sperm bank you are OK - at the moment but they could retro-change this any time I suppose - but if you do it via an unregistered one or in some other way then you are liable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Here is the info: https://www.gov.uk/legal-rights-for-egg-and-sperm-donors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fed_Up Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Why do they "need" more ethnic minorities? For Waynettas who want a brahn baybee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Sadman Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Why do they "need" more ethnic minorities? For Waynettas who want a brahn baybee? Its a bit strange, this 'diversity' malarky. Whites made up about -25-30% of the worlds population a hundred years ago, South asians 25-30%, East asians 25-30%, africans 15%, others 10%. Now whites make up about 10% of the overall population. 5% of global newborns. And still apparently that's too many white babies. Its almost like efnic diversity just means no more white people. But that's just conspiracy talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Sadman Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Here is the info: https://www.gov.uk/legal-rights-for-egg-and-sperm-donors IIRC the brew haha a few years back was about donors no longer having anonymity...the spawn has the legal right to uncover the identity of their 'father' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendy Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 IIRC the brew haha a few years back was about donors no longer having anonymity...the spawn has the legal right to uncover the identity of their 'father' +1 that's what I recall too. Potentially could find you're a father to thousands, all wanting handouts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilf Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Surely that is the ultimate test of racism, are you willing to accept any sperm regardless of the race of the father. If you don't then quite simply in my view you are a racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Sadman Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Surely that is the ultimate test of racism, are you willing to accept any sperm regardless of the race of the father. If you don't then quite simply in my view you are a racist. Absolutely. The question is, outside of racism combined with property rights violations, why it is considered bad? Irrational perhaps, inconsistent, maybe. But so is spending thousands a year to watch morons kick a ball around. My view on racism is exactly the same as my view on everything else. It can be bad, it can be neutral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie_George Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 http://youtu.be/d3CWLCoQu7c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Surely that is the ultimate test of racism, are you willing to accept any sperm regardless of the race of the father. If you don't then quite simply in my view you are a racist. If you're not prepared to accept a donor organ from any person regardless of whether they're a good 'ethnic' match then you're racist too? We're not the same inside, so why do we pretend we are? http://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/how_to_become_a_donor/black_and_other_minority_ethnic_communities/ Questions and answersDoes the colour of my skin make a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I think all the semen should be stored in one huge tub and mixed up. Then it would be pure chance what you get. They could make a lottery out of it and call it 'Pot Luck'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilf Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 If you're not prepared to accept a donor organ from any person regardless of whether they're a good 'ethnic' match then you're racist too? We're not the same inside, so why do we pretend we are? http://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/how_to_become_a_donor/black_and_other_minority_ethnic_communities/Questions and answersDoes the colour of my skin make a difference? That's not what your link says, it says you are more likely to be a match if you are from the same ethnic group. You are rejecting the organ in that case due to a physiological mismatch the racial element is essentially irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 IIRC the brew haha a few years back was about donors no longer having anonymity...the spawn has the legal right to uncover the identity of their 'father' Ah, yes. That was it. Slippery slope I think some people suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 That's not what your link says, it says you are more likely to be a match if you are from the same ethnic group. You are rejecting the organ in that case due to a physiological mismatch the racial element is essentially irrelevant. So it's ok to want a racially matching organ (because it is more likely to match you) but not a racially matched baby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilf Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 So it's ok to want a racially matching organ (because it is more likely to match you) but not a racially matched baby? No, wanting more racially diverse organs is different to wanting more racially diverse sperm. You can use any sperm you like for the same result, you can't with organs. If the aim is to provide as many potential matches as possible then the more you have from across the range the better. With sperm that's simply not necessary, ignoring hereditary health issues* one sperm is equally as good as the other, white, black or otherwise. * I'd assume they were screened for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fed_Up Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 No, wanting more racially diverse organs is different to wanting more racially diverse sperm. You can use any sperm you like for the same result, you can't with organs. If the aim is to provide as many potential matches as possible then the more you have from across the range the better. With sperm that's simply not necessary, ignoring hereditary health issues* one sperm is equally as good as the other, white, black or otherwise. * I'd assume they were screened for. That being the case, why do they "need more racially diverse sperm"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 According to the BBC just now this national sperm bank will "change the face of sperm donation". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 That being the case, why do they "need more racially diverse sperm"?Brilliant ^ case closed.Anyway - its blatantly clear to anyone with an ounce of sense as to why they want this. Non white people are just as insular and 'racist' when it comes to their own offspring. Two black people that can't have a kid don't want to be seen walking about with a white kid - and there clearly isn't enough 'black*' sperm to go around. * Or other 'non white' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest_northshore_* Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I think all the semen should be stored in one huge tub and mixed up. Then it would be pure chance what you get. They could make a lottery out of it and call it 'Pot Luck'. It could be yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 That being the case, why do they "need more racially diverse sperm"? We need vibrant sperm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Why have this at all? Anyone has a right to have a kid but I'm not remotely convinced that they have a right to have any sort of assistance if they don't want to go about it the usual way. It's not as if we need more people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Possitt Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 According to the BBC just now this national sperm bank will "change the face of sperm donation". Previously the face of sperm donation used to look like a painter's radio..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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