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What Is It With Btl Landlords And Stains On Carpets? Lol

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We have had an brief email exchange and its apparent he's clueless and hasn't sought legal advise at all, or rather he has and they have laughed him out of the office, so chosen to chance his arm, threaten a bit of arm breaking, and if that doesn;t work, hope his scratch cards come up trumps. For example he states the County Court have told him its a "clear cut" case. Well the Court would never say that. They will only advise on court procedure as they are not qualified to dispense legal opinion.

I won't be responding to any more emails, and will now go silent and await his "proper claim" with interest, but he needs to be aware he will be put to "strict proof" photo's and third party reports, "just because he says so" won't really count with a judge.

The fact you have it on the check in inventory and the deposit was returned sort of makes it a clear cut case :lol::lol::lol:

Was this actually with those clowns Martin & Co? I suffer them in York, the last entertainment was when our agreement was up, they wanted £60 each for no change in rent or terms, so we decided to go statutory, 2 weeks later got a letter off someone else saying the same about terms etc and an urgent email ...about someone elses house, name, address, the lot-data protection non existent :lol::lol::lol:

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The fact you have it on the check in inventory and the deposit was returned sort of makes it a clear cut case :lol::lol::lol:

Was this actually with those clowns Martin & Co? I suffer them in York, the last entertainment was when our agreement was up, they wanted £60 each for no change in rent or terms, so we decided to go statutory, 2 weeks later got a letter off someone else saying the same about terms etc and an urgent email ...about someone elses house, name, address, the lot-data protection non existent :lol::lol::lol:

They are basically complete idiots and I suspect they are pulling a fast one on contracts. For example I would sign and return a contract, and never get a copy back (signed by them or a landlord). Its a legal obligation to provide a tenant with a contract (so he knows where he stands for example).

How would you know if a contract you had signed hadn't been stuffed in a drawer somewhere, unsigned by them or the landlord? So for great chunks of the tenancy I was never too sure if I had a six month contract or not. I certainly couldn't produce one if I was ever asked, and when I tackled the letting agency, they couldn't find the agreement! They claimed their filing system was in a mess and would put in the post later (but they never did).

I guess 99 times out of 100, they get away with it, tenants don't really know their rights, then there is a dispute and TSHTF.

Its basically a few young lads running around letting properties and basically stitching up tenants as much as possible with Unfair Contract Terms and unreasonable charges. Basically maintenance, repairs and customer service take a back seat (after the property is let of course) and if they actually employed the staff needed to run the business properly, such as employing a full time repairs manager, would actually make a stinking great loss.

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If he comes again, a word with plod.

I assume he gave you copies of the "historical documents", and you note the date and time he came round.

He has no case as the inventory was checked and the deposit refunded.

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They are basically complete idiots and I suspect they are pulling a fast one on contracts. For example I would sign and return a contract, and never get a copy back (signed by them or a landlord). Its a legal obligation to provide a tenant with a contract (so he knows where he stands for example).

How would you know if a contract you had signed hadn't been stuffed in a drawer somewhere, unsigned by them or the landlord? So for great chunks of the tenancy I was never too sure if I had a six month contract or not. I certainly couldn't produce one if I was ever asked, and when I tackled the letting agency, they couldn't find the agreement! They claimed their filing system was in a mess and would put in the post later (but they never did).

I guess 99 times out of 100, they get away with it, tenants don't really know their rights, then there is a dispute and TSHTF.

Its basically a few young lads running around letting properties and basically stitching up tenants as much as possible with Unfair Contract Terms and unreasonable charges. Basically maintenance, repairs and customer service take a back seat (after the property is let of course) and if they actually employed the staff needed to run the business properly, such as employing a full time repairs manager, would actually make a stinking great loss.

Couple of years ago when we did actually renew we negotiated that we'would pay 3 months up front the after that monthly in order to retain the breakclause (other half made that neccessary with a big mouth :lol: ) but never received the renewal doc. The finally emailed a pdf version (after we threated not to pay the rent as there was no evidence a contract existed) with the LL sig and then the next day another email from the agent we normally dealt with saying the LL hadn't yet signed but they would sign on his behalf and sent it out to us :angry: :angry: :angry: :blink::ph34r:<_<

So either, the LL had signed and agent B lied or agent A forged a sig (rather than just sign the damned thing) and pdf it to us, I keep everything with them in writing coz I know there are going to be problems when we go.

And when we moved in they got the odd job man to fit the gas cooker :angry: , which resulted in a gas leak which went om for the 4 days or so before we actually started moving stuff in. There's a thread somewhere :angry:

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It's 5 years - the lifespan of a carpet if it's in rented accommodation.

part of the carpet in our place "melted" in the sun. it was the cheapest carpet and a landlords favourite according to the carpet man.

Landlord asked if I was going to contribute as we had left the curtains open during the day.

We had a right laugh at that one.

anyway, the landlord has now paid twice the price for a carpet...if he'd bought decent in the beginning, then it would have been cheaper.

apart from this moment, he has been a gem though..

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I've just has a quasi / semi violent confrontation with my ex private landlord! blink.gif

He's tracked me down and arrived here mob handed (shifty accomplice recording the conversation with a smart phone) to recover money for.....wait for it......a bedroom carpet!

He states that he has to come serve "legal papers" which are ...wait for it....is a High Court Judgement, a Statutory Demand, Bankruptcy Notice?

Nope! an invoice for a bedroom carpet!

Hand written on one of those books you buy in Rymans. "To Replace Bed" scrawled on it. (Even that is defective,There was no bed as it was unfurnished).

And I've two weeks to pay or he'll "come down on me hard."

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Oh and I've been "served" a £60 solicitors search fee. (I didn't leave a forwarding address as I didn't owe money, or didn't think I did).

Needless to say the deposit was fully recovered under the DPS, and the naffing bit of shitty bedroom carpet was covered under the original inventory, and I'm now annoyed that I am having to type letters stating this!!!

BTL landlords are total scum, should not be in business, and ought to be regulated into the ground.

They make me laugh as they are such pathetic scum. The go round buying up properties, creating BTL empires and then spend their lives whining about stains on carpets!!!

Mods move to Rental sub forum, when I've had a drink and calmed down a bit.

Just to add the carpet was dirty, when I took possession, as was the rest of the property, as this was even referred to in the inventory. He couldn't even be arsed to get flat properly valeted.

Oh Lordy, WTF do these people come from

Your landlord would have had an opportunity to contest the deposit prior to its return if he was not happy with the condition of the property. The fact that it has been repaid means that he has no further claimsas he has already agreed to the return of your deposit.. Report him to the police.

PS not all landlords are scum but he does sound like a shiite.

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On every occasion you had the opertunity to put items present at the start of the tenancy on the inventory, if there was no inventory, you could put it in writing that there was no inventory. At the end of the tenancy when they try to steal the money you simply take it through the courts (pre TDS).

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Most BTL landlords are Thatcher's children. The sort of people who believe: "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." Poujadistes par excellence who fret that someone somewhere is getting something for nothing and at their expense.

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Most BTL landlords are Thatcher's children. The sort of people who believe: "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." Poujadistes par excellence who fret that someone somewhere is getting something for nothing and at their expense.

Do you have references to support that statement or are you a socialist and think that any dissent should be stamped upon whether the evidence supports your conclusions or not, I note that in two posts today you have attempted to be insulting with regard to my sig. 'The sort of people...' taken in certain contexts could be seen to be inflammatory if not rude.!

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I didn't report it to the Police, as I didn't think I was in imminent danger. Indeed I think I laughed when he threatened to get heavy with me. I think he's trying to stir up some other sh*t. I think he's got issue's. I actually moved out under a S21 notice to quit served by the agents having strung them along on the renewal, as I awaited social housing. His and the letting agents worry was getting a void period over winter due to management charges, so were desperate to get a renewal, but that never happened. He has let the property twice to me and someone else, both times in winter. Why buy properties if you think you can't re-let them? I think BTL's have mental health issues and you life shouldn't be in their hands literally.

I'm thinking of doing an LR search to determine if he has a BTL mortgage on the property. Not sure I want to waste nearly £15 to dig into the affairs of that twit though.

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I didn't report it to the Police, as I didn't think I was in imminent danger. Indeed I think I laughed when he threatened to get heavy with me. I think he's trying to stir up some other sh*t. I think he's got issue's. I actually moved out under a S21 notice to quit served by the agents having strung them along on the renewal, as I awaited social housing. His and the letting agents worry was getting a void period over winter due to management charges, so were desperate to get a renewal, but that never happened. He has let the property twice to me and someone else, both times in winter. Why buy properties if you think you can't re-let them? I think BTL's have mental health issues and you life shouldn't be in their hands literally.

I'm thinking of doing an LR search to determine if he has a BTL mortgage on the property. Not sure I want to waste nearly £15 to dig into the affairs of that twit though.

£15 to really screw up a guy who threatened you?

A bargain IMO.

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£15 to really screw up a guy who threatened you?

A bargain IMO.

Only if you consider losing money and endangering yourself as positives.

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Only if you consider losing money and endangering yourself as positives.

Not sure what it would prove if he had a BTL mortgage on a rented property or not. Would anyone be interested? I doubt it. This is one reason why you don't want to be dealing with amateurs. Dealing with a Council or Housing Association can be a PITA but they are unlikely to come round and break your legs or engage in personal vendetta's because you decided not to renew. Organisations don't tend to take the business personally, one man band, cowboy types do. In fact quite a good case for "corporatism."

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