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#1 Tin Foil Hat

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 07:47 PM

I was booking my advance train tickets today and for the week around the 11th of July East Coast trains have nigh on doubled (and in some cases trebled) their prices to London. Now I notice that most seats are occupied by suits who are not paying themselves in all likelihood but this really is takimng the piss. I would have to spend 750 pounds to go from Newark to Kings Cross for that week.

I hope this isn't just a lead into 75 each way becoming the norm else I will be joining the dole queue.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 08:03 PM

I was talking to someone today who works at canary wharf, they have been asked to reduce thier staff hours by a third for the olympic period, because of stress on the public transport system.

I work in construction, the feeling building up is that its going to be unworkable.

Everything im hearing about the olympics in London is starting to sound like a nightmare


Seconded. Ive booked the entire period off and am moving down to the West Country for 2 weeks to get away from it. I commute through Stratford to get to work in the morning.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 08:22 PM

Bizarrely, air tickets out of the UK in the run-up to the Olympics have also shot up in price. I'm looking to fly MME-FAI around 15 July, returning the week after Labor Day. The best quotes I'm finding at the moment are around the £900 mark, compared to around £600 for similar flights last year. I'd have thought that the airlines would be wanting to fly so much capacity into the UK in the weeks before the start of the games that they'd almost be giving away seats in the other direction to avoid having to fly empty planes back out again.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 08:33 PM

Bizarrely, air tickets out of the UK in the run-up to the Olympics have also shot up in price.

That's what bothers me. I want to be out of the country while the humbug is going on, and I was thinking Scandinavia (rather go north than south in that season). But I fear even outward travel is likely to be a nightmare, and I certainly don't want to go anywhere via London.

Maybe a ferry to Ireland will be the least bad option :huh:

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 08:45 PM

A major reason is the cost of rail safety. Impose the same cost per death on the roads as the worst case the railways have faced, and a year's insurance would have to cost more than a new car.

Also the underground is a fantastic concept and outstanding Victorian engineering achievement. Yet 150 years later why do we not build undegrounds in other conurbations or places with high population desnsities e.g Birmingham or Manchester or even in smaller towns? Is it for geological reasons or would there be no ROI? Public transport when cost effective, clean and safe is a wonderful thing and gives economic opportunity to all in society.

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Lots of investment required. Only London gets that kind of investment. Unless by the kind of happy accident of history that benefits Newcastle :)

Other countries have different attitudes. Germany has undergrounds in middling-sized cities. Italian cities have (limited) undergrounds, despite being geologically[1] and archaeologically far more difficult than anything in Blighty. And not just in Europe: Asian and even 'merkin cities have some good systems.

[1] as in, earthquake zone!

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 09:04 PM

London was very conducive to building tube lines due to the its clay, making it easy to dig tunnels. South London is covered much less by the tube network due to its sand and gravel geology.
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Posted 08 April 2012 - 09:05 PM

I am sorely tempted simply to get on Circle Line tube trains every day of the event and travel round and round the system all day taking up space.

It is one way I could spite the bastards who have stuck me with a bill for a jamboree to which I have not been invited.

In fact protests of this type are one of the areas where the whole Olympic event is exceptionally vulnerable.

You dont even need to break the law. All you have to do is turn up and use the system

Edited by stormymonday_2011, 08 April 2012 - 09:11 PM.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 09:18 PM

I was talking to someone today who works at canary wharf, they have been asked to reduce thier staff hours by a third for the olympic period, because of stress on the public transport system.

I work in construction, the feeling building up is that its going to be unworkable.

Everything im hearing about the olympics in London is starting to sound like a nightmare



I keep getting calls from IT firms looking for people to work in central London, especially in the banks.

On the surface, the money they are offering is very good but unless you already live in London the cost of accomodation and travel to/in/from London this Summer is prohibitive even for these salaries.

The person who has been asked to reduce their hours by a third - was that work a third from home or just not work the hours and not get paid a third of their normal salary? Or are they - generous - being offered a third less hours for the same pay?
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Posted 08 April 2012 - 09:19 PM

Seconded. Ive booked the entire period off and am moving down to the West Country for 2 weeks to get away from it. I commute through Stratford to get to work in the morning.


Is the Olympics itself just 2 weeks - I suppose there will be a good 6 week build up though?
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Posted 08 April 2012 - 09:25 PM

I was talking to someone today who works at canary wharf, they have been asked to reduce thier staff hours by a third for the olympic period, because of stress on the public transport system.

I work in construction, the feeling building up is that its going to be unworkable.

Everything im hearing about the olympics in London is starting to sound like a nightmare


The nightmare is the planning and the contingencies. Think Year 2000.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 09:44 PM

The omens are not good

When compiling a commemorative Tube map for London with the station names changed to that of past Olympic stars TfL managed to omit the name of Fanny Blankers-Koen, the outstanding athlete of the 1948 London Olympics. It even created a minor diplomatic incident prompting complaints from the Dutch embassy

http://www.independe...an-7619396.html

If they have such a poor grasp of Londons past Olympic history you do start to wonder how well they are prepared for something more serious.

Edited by stormymonday_2011, 08 April 2012 - 09:46 PM.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 09:51 PM

Yes, if the claim in this posting - that only 40% of tube journeys are paid for in full and up front - is even close to accurate.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 09:58 PM

Yes, if the claim in this posting - that only 40% of tube journeys are paid for in full and up front - is even close to accurate.


I'd guess the percentage paying would be much higher when the tube is packed - rush hour - so although the finance side would be helped by abolishing the freedom pass it wouldn't help my main gripe - paying a fortune to get squashed!

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 10:04 PM

Is the Olympics itself just 2 weeks - I suppose there will be a good 6 week build up though?


Yes. The Olympics is just over 2 weeks long. Then you've got the Paralympics after it. I think the whole thing is around 5-6 weeks. Unfortunately I don't get that much holiday!

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 10:28 PM

The whole Olympic thing is being overplayed.
Who are all these people that have all this money to come to London to watch sports most people have never heard of? Most of the venues are tiny.

Like so many things in the past, people think they can make a fast buck, but the reality will be a fairly busy London summer.

Check the hotel bookings for the Olympic period!!

I've heard shows and tour booking are way down on normal.




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