PopGun Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 whoever put warsaw in there might want to explain why most polish kids are coming here...land of milk and honey etc There's probably plenty of jobs in the main cities, it's everywhere else that's the problem. Plus arbitrage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Generation Game Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Why does it talk about emigrating and property investment? Are young people looking to emigrate because all the best properties to flip in the UK have already been flipped, and we need to foister our techniques onto unwitting societies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doesn't Commute Anymore Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Interesting list. There should be at least one caribbean country in there. Bahamas, Trinidad and Tobago (oil/gas-rich) and Barbados are all worth a look if you can handle the culture change. These countries will be needing a lot of know-how, skills and qualifications in the years ahead that young Brits can offer (education, public service, healthcare, oil industry). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Why does it talk about emigrating and property investment? Are young people looking to emigrate because all the best properties to flip in the UK have already been flipped, and we need to foister our techniques onto unwitting societies? Berlin is a very nice open city....so why then is their property so affordable,why do people there prefer to rent? ....is it because they did not allow a bubble to develop, therefore the people that matter the young, educated and resourceful can afford to stay living in their own country and create future growth and prosperity......you can hardly blame young people from deserting high price property bubble London to seek their fortune elsewhere now can you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ska_mna Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) Reading with interest. Feeling really stifled here in the UK at the moment and do feel like I gotta get out soon. Mrs ska_mna has Oz Visa, so could go there tomorrow. But damn it, the Oz bubble is horrendous too. C'mon, burst already aussie bubble and I'm there! Failing that, Germany perhaps. EDIT: I'm a coastal-lovin chap, total water sport addict. Anyone got any recommendations? Edited February 23, 2012 by ska_mna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissy_fit Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Bogota, Colombia Forget Colombia's reputation for crime and drug-barons. These days it has an improving security situation, huge potential for tourism and economic growth, and Bogota is a vibrant city far from the country's less stable parts. Add to this the attractiveness of the indiginous population and low property prices and you're onto a winner. So, the writer can't spell and thinks the sh*ggability of the locals is an important factor. Is this article from Nuts magazine or a broadsheet newspaper? It's hard to tell.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Democorruptcy Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Berlin is a very nice open city....so why then is their property so affordable,why do people there prefer to rent? ....is it because they did not allow a bubble to develop, therefore the people that matter the young, educated and resourceful can afford to stay living in their own country and create future growth and prosperity......you can hardly blame young people from deserting high price property bubble London to seek their fortune elsewhere now can you? Apartment prices rising a lot in Germany but existing home prices falling: http://www.hypoport.de/hpx-hedonic.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19 year mortgage 8itch Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 EDIT: I'm a coastal-lovin chap, total water sport addict. Anyone got any recommendations? Greece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Greece ...is that good advise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19 year mortgage 8itch Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 ...is that good advise? what's that phrase about being brave when others a fearful? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest_FaFa!_* Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/propertypicturegalleries/9087305/Top-twenty-places-to-emigrate-for-young-people.html?image=18 warsaw,phonhm penh,bangkok,prague,monetivdeo,mexico city,hamburg,manila,dubai,auckland,buenois aaires,lima,shanghai,bogota,vienna,panama city,sydney,jakarta,berlin,malta. whoever put warsaw in there might want to explain why most polish kids are coming here...land of milk and honey etc Jakarta? Manila? Put down the sodding crackpipe....Bland, boring, polluted, one big traffic jam and no subway or public transport. I'd pay money not to live in Jakarta. The Philippines has beautiful islands and beaches - true, but you won't see much of that in Manila. Choke on the fumes, get deafened by the endless blaring on the car horn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 what's that phrase about being brave when others a fearful? There is no such thing as bravery; only degrees of fear. ~John Wainwright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHERWICK Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Bogota, Colombia Forget Colombia's reputation for crime and drug-barons. Sorry, I can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHERWICK Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 MY VIEW on whether or not good places to live: warsaw - CRAP phonhm penh - CRAP bangkok - CRAP prague - CRAP monetivdeo - CRAP mexico city - CRAP hamburg - GOOD manila - CRAP dubai - UTTER CRAP auckland - EARTHQUAKES & TOO REMOTE FROM ANY WESTERN CULTURE buenois aaires - LOVELY lima - CRAP shanghai - GREAT FOR A FEW YEARS bogota - CRAP vienna - AH, VIENNA! panama city - CRAP sydney - BUBBLE + FULL OF AUSSIES jakarta - CRAP berlin - NICE malta - CRAP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diver Dan Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 MY VIEW on whether or not good places to live: warsaw - CRAP phonhm penh - CRAP bangkok - CRAP prague - CRAP monetivdeo - CRAP mexico city - CRAP hamburg - GOOD manila - CRAP dubai - UTTER CRAP auckland - EARTHQUAKES & TOO REMOTE FROM ANY WESTERN CULTURE buenois aaires - LOVELY lima - CRAP shanghai - GREAT FOR A FEW YEARS bogota - CRAP vienna - AH, VIENNA! panama city - CRAP sydney - BUBBLE + FULL OF AUSSIES jakarta - CRAP berlin - NICE malta - CRAP What have you against Prague? I found it to be a lovely place with fairly cheap places away from the obvious tourist traps. They eat cake for breakfast there. What more could you want???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHERWICK Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) What have you against Prague? Isn't it full of our chavs on drunken & puking stag weekends? Edited February 23, 2012 by SHERWICK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldbug9999 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Add to this the attractiveness of the indiginous population and low property prices and you're onto a winner. So, the writer .... thinks the sh*ggability of the locals is an important factor. And whats wrong with that ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 MY VIEW on whether or not good places to live: warsaw - CRAP phonhm penh - CRAP bangkok - CRAP prague - CRAP monetivdeo - CRAP mexico city - CRAP hamburg - GOOD manila - CRAP dubai - UTTER CRAP auckland - EARTHQUAKES & TOO REMOTE FROM ANY WESTERN CULTURE buenois aaires - LOVELY lima - CRAP shanghai - GREAT FOR A FEW YEARS bogota - CRAP vienna - AH, VIENNA! panama city - CRAP sydney - BUBBLE + FULL OF AUSSIES jakarta - CRAP berlin - NICE malta - CRAP You are obviously well travelled and have lived in all these places to be able to rate them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diver Dan Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Isn't it full of our chavs on drunken & puking stag weekends? The chavs mainly seem to concentrate themselves around the seedy bars near Wenceslas Square; there are a lot more places to see and things to do elsewhere in Prague. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doesn't Commute Anymore Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 The chavs mainly seem to concentrate themselves around the seedy bars near Wenceslas Square; there are a lot more places to see and things to do elsewhere in Prague. Agreed. Prague has things going for it, avoiding the stag-nighty parts. Panama is rather nice as well - good for hiking, snorkelling and tranquility - in areas not too far from the capital city. I think everywhere that is hyped up as good is going to be expensive already. The key is to find a place to emigrate to that has potential to grow for the next 20 years, and that offers a lifestyle that may make up for the culture change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bajista Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 You are obviously well travelled and have lived in all these places to be able to rate them. Actually I agree with him on pretty much all except phonhm penh which would be ok for a few years though not indefinitely. Prague's pretty but lifestyle wise I'd rather Budapest. If I was emigrating now it would be to Argentina or Chile if they weren't so far away and Spain or Portugal since they are nearer ( but I don't need to work much which might be a factor given their recessions). If was younger I'd be learning Turkish and emigrating to Istanbul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamnumerate Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) Agreed. Prague has things going for it, avoiding the stag-nighty parts. Panama is rather nice as well - good for hiking, snorkelling and tranquility - in areas not too far from the capital city. I think everywhere that is hyped up as good is going to be expensive already. The key is to find a place to emigrate to that has potential to grow for the next 20 years, and that offers a lifestyle that may make up for the culture change. Can I point that Bogota has much lower violent crime than many cities in the US. And the scenery nearby is amazing. It also has a very nice climate. It is changes between 5 and 22 C so you can avoid spending on air conditioning or heating!!! (My wife is from Colombia but sadly not Bogota). Edited February 23, 2012 by iamnumerate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamnumerate Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Can I point that Bogota has much lower violent crime than many cities in the US. And the scenery nearby is amazing. It also has a very nice climate. It is changes between 5 and 22 C so you can avoid spending on air conditioning or heating!!! (My wife is from Colombia but sadly not Bogota). But the bad thing is that to get a job you need qualifications not experience. If you have 15 years programming but no degree- don't even think about it - if what my in laws say is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doesn't Commute Anymore Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 But the bad thing is that to get a job you need qualifications not experience. If you have 15 years programming but no degree- don't even think about it - if what my in laws say is true. Yes, in many foreign countries, it is qualifications that are valued (especially UK university qualifications!) rather than experience. I've noticed this too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libspero Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 There is a definite presumption by the author that everybody wants to live in a capital/large city. I'd love to move out to South America.. can't say I'd be delighted about living in any of the places mentioned though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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