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Just been sent a link to this website. Campaign against private companies who benefit from people who are made to work unpaid with the threat of loss of benefits.

List of companies benefiting:

http://www.boycottworkfare.org/

Boycott Workfare is a UK-wide campaign to end forced unpaid work for benefits. Workfare benefits the rich by providing free labour, whilst threatening the poor by taking away welfare rights if people refuse to work without a living wage. We expose and take action against companies and organisations profiting from workfare; encourage organisations to pledge to boycott it; and actively inform people of their rights.

What a mess we are in.

Also worth linking this to an opinion piece in the Guardian today >, pointing out that we, as a nation, are increasingly disgusted by poor people themselves rather than poverty. I think it's a useful distinction to make, and you don't have to be a statist labourite luvvie tw4t to realise that the problems of poverty are a product of the economic climate and system we've created rather than the relative small number of genuinely work-shy leeches.

Move manufacturing to China, replace jobs with benefits system, inflate credit bubble, spend beyond our means, allow elite to cream huge wages off the top of illicit parasitic profits pulled in from future demand creating massive inequality, make living costs so expensive that a basic wage isn't enough to live on (no longer pays to work) etc. etc.

What a massive c0ck-up we've made of things, eh.

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Worryingly, public sector jobs at Medway Council are also being filled with workfare placements

If they are to be made to work the council should be the first on the list surely

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I guess it’s a bit of a DOUBLE EDGED SWORED (crapspeak alert).

In one way it’s unfair on those who has legitimately lost their jobs and can’t find anything, yet I guess if stores use free labour to keep their costs down, and therefore the product costs too, it’s like them in work getting a taxback discount should they shop in one of the stores that takes advantage of the scheme.

Personally I’m not particularly in agreement with it. Unfortunately for it to be fair would mean adding layers of bureaucracy that’d cost more than it would generate.

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Just been sent a link to this website. Campaign against private companies who benefit from people who are made to work unpaid with the threat of loss of benefits.

List of companies benefiting:

http://www.boycottworkfare.org/

What a mess we are in.

Also worth linking this to an opinion piece in the Guardian today >, pointing out that we, as a nation, are increasingly disgusted by poor people themselves rather than poverty. I think it's a useful distinction to make, and you don't have to be a statist labourite luvvie tw4t to realise that the problems of poverty are a product of the economic climate and system we've created rather than the relative small number of genuinely work-shy leeches.

Move manufacturing to China, replace jobs with benefits system, inflate credit bubble, spend beyond our means, allow elite to cream huge wages off the top of illicit parasitic profits pulled in from future demand creating massive inequality, make living costs so expensive that a basic wage isn't enough to live on (no longer pays to work) etc. etc.

What a massive c0ck-up we've made of things, eh.

Yes, I'd agree with the comment about disgust at poor people, something regularly manifested even on this site. Just look at the acceptability of a word like "chav", an indistinct form of insult, generally applied to the disenfranchised, particularly an unemployed benefit recipient. Try substituting black or woman in a sentence uttered by someone using the word to see just how acceptable the term has become. (think there is a book on this called Chavs - the demonisation of the working class, so this isn't an original thoght of mine BTW)

Completely disagree that this situation is accidental ( as implied by **** up) however; quite the opposite. It is a continuation of the same exercise that began with breaking trade unions as a real political counterweight. This is a carefully engineered project designed to serve the interests of the supermarket/banking /political/ media kleptocracy. No conspiricy theory, simply the inevitable outcome of allowing the political system to be shaped and guided by the most powerful and wealthiest political lobbies. It is utterly vital for them, given what the rest of us are about to experience, that there is NO organised, effective opposition outside their control, hence the effort to divide and rule with wheezes like this. Doubtless a lot of wind and ink will be let loose by the hordes defending the use of my tax to underwrite the bottom line of multinationals because it makes "the scroungers" pay for their benefits. On that basis I want the Noble Chuckle Brothers of Windsor to clean my house once a week instead of twa**ing about in helicopters meant for proper people to fight in.

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Yes, I'd agree with the comment about disgust at poor people, something regularly manifested even on this site. Just look at the acceptability of a word like "chav", an indistinct form of insult, generally applied to the disenfranchised, particularly an unemployed benefit recipient. Try substituting black or woman in a sentence uttered by someone using the word to see just how acceptable the term has become. (think there is a book on this called Chavs - the demonisation of the working class, so this isn't an original thoght of mine BTW)

Completely disagree that this situation is accidental ( as implied by **** up) however; quite the opposite. It is a continuation of the same exercise that began with breaking trade unions as a real political counterweight. This is a carefully engineered project designed to serve the interests of the supermarket/banking /political/ media kleptocracy. No conspiricy theory, simply the inevitable outcome of allowing the political system to be shaped and guided by the most powerful and wealthiest political lobbies. It is utterly vital for them, given what the rest of us are about to experience, that there is NO organised, effective opposition outside their control, hence the effort to divide and rule with wheezes like this. Doubtless a lot of wind and ink will be let loose by the hordes defending the use of my tax to underwrite the bottom line of multinationals because it makes "the scroungers" pay for their benefits. On that basis I want the Noble Chuckle Brothers of Windsor to clean my house once a week instead of twa**ing about in helicopters meant for proper people to fight in.

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Also HMV are on that list. Free workers and they are still screwed! sad.gif

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It's disgusting.

Surely there must an FIO out there somewhere that itemises how much each company has benefitted from this?

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Completely disagree that this situation is accidental ( as implied by **** up) however; quite the opposite. It is a continuation of the same exercise that began with breaking trade unions as a real political counterweight. This is a carefully engineered project designed to serve the interests of the supermarket/banking /political/ media kleptocracy. No conspiricy theory, simply the inevitable outcome of allowing the political system to be shaped and guided by the most powerful and wealthiest political lobbies. It is utterly vital for them, given what the rest of us are about to experience, that there is NO organised, effective opposition outside their control, hence the effort to divide and rule with wheezes like this.

Oh absolutely, completely agree. Our political system and institutions are incapable of making change. In fact everything is largely a product of them. It's also why I was so dismayed at the overwhelming rejection of AV+ last year. However small, it could have helped take a first chink out of the old guard's armour.

But like you say, there is no real opposition to the status quo. There are still some unions, but the labour party is no longer a party for the worker but a party for the public sector/state. There's a big difference.

Revolution it is then.

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Thanks to the OP - a few of my usual shops on here the as of tomorrow won't be getting my custom.

Write and let them know why.

Write to the local paper too.

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Write and let them know why.

Write to the local paper too.

Surely this isn't the same Sarah Bell who was in favour of workfare only a few short months ago? :unsure::blink:

Thanks, I'll be dropping a paper mail to the CEO of each company I am boycotting to let them know why I'm taking my custom elsewhere.

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Surely this isn't the same Sarah Bell who was in favour of workfare only a few short months ago? :unsure::blink:

I think sarah was more in favour of the unemployed doing some hedge tidying and clearing up litter IIRC wink.gif

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JSA+EXPENSES

Permanent

Wow the situation is a lot worse than I thought. I assumed workfare was just for a month in which case at least it would be a hassle for companies to constantly recruit people but this is a permanent position for JSA.

This means JSA is OFFICIALLY the new minimum wage, around 1.80 an hour is that?

That's disgusting even by Chinese standards, because they don't have the inflated living costs we do.

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Surely this isn't the same Sarah Bell who was in favour of workfare only a few short months ago? :unsure::blink:

Thanks, I'll be dropping a paper mail to the CEO of each company I am boycotting to let them know why I'm taking my custom elsewhere.

The jobs that are being done should be paid jobs that companies should be paying for.

Inventing nice jobs planting trees and the likes would be a much nicer thing to do for nowt.nalthough you could argue the skills learnt are not transferable to the modern jobs on offer.

There are lots of things that could be dne for workfare that would make peoples lives much better: being a tesco slave isn't one of them.

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I think sarah was more in favour of the unemployed doing some hedge tidying and clearing up litter IIRC wink.gif

Yeah, I'll bet those unemployed council sub-contractors would love it.

"Mummy, why aren't there any Christmas presents this year?"

"That's because Daddy doesn't have a job any more"

"But where does he go every day?"

"Well, he does have a job darling, but he doesn't actually get paid for doing it"

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Wow the situation is a lot worse than I thought. I assumed workfare was just for a month in which case at least it would be a hassle for companies to constantly recruit people but this is a permanent position for JSA.

This means JSA is OFFICIALLY the new minimum wage, around 1.80 an hour is that?

That's disgusting even by Chinese standards, because they don't have the inflated living costs we do.

John Harris has written a piece on that specific Tesco job ad now too -

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/16/work-free-tesco-job-advert

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I'm glad that we were already boycotting Tesco, after finding out they were actively recruiting store managers for London, at ludicrously low wages, in Eastern Europe. This just adds further fuel to the fire and I'll be telling everyone I know what they're up to and ask them to boycott Tesco as well.

This has really pi**ed me off! :angry:

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John Harris has written a piece on that specific Tesco job ad now too -

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/16/work-free-tesco-job-advert

So tax credit subsidies no longer enough, they want free labour under the guise of 'helping' (themselves). This is actually very chilling - anything but face the realities of a broken economy that can not support its population economically - that would require some radical rethinking of what and economy/society is.

As sure as eggs is eggs, it starts with bashing the unemployed (because of course their unemployment is their fault), and leads to the need to be seen to be doing something. The elite can continue with their snouts in the trough and the likes of A4E can go on rewarding themselves for loading the conveyor belt of false hope.

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Thanks to the OP for posting this and to those responsible for the boycottworkfare website.

I'm going through the list and will be boycotting those shops involved in this. For us this means no more Tesco, though we've halved our spend there anyway due to a new Lidl opening locally and Co-op becoming more competitive on pricing. I shall miss the Tesco vouchers as I used them for Eurotunnel a lot but we must take a stand on this. I don't spend at most of the other stores on the list but I will actively boycott them too (every little helps).

I will also, for the first time in my life, get writing some letters (or emails) to the companies concerned letting them know that I am taking my business elsewhere and why I am doing it.

We have to take a stand on this and stamp it out before it grows and we'll all end up as slaves. Reading some of the stories on the boycott website has got me so angry. Many years ago I worked in some of those type of stores and I recognise the sort of management behaviour they complain about. It beggars belief that companies are getting involved with this sort of practice as it is clearly unpopular with not only the workfare staff but also their existing permanent staff (who lose paid hours due to the slaves). I'm sure that their own workers will put the boot into them too, by working slower and sabotaging things in their own way. We have to kill this sort of crap stone dead.

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Why am I not surprised that Tesco is amongst the companies involved in this!

They seem intent on snatching more and more market share of every market.

Tesco Finance

Tesco Cars

Tesco Mobile

Tesco Entertainment

Tesco are a money grubbing amoral company. Firmly on my boycott list a long time ago.

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So tax credit subsidies no longer enough, they want free labour under the guise of 'helping' (themselves). This is actually very chilling - anything but face the realities of a broken economy that can not support its population economically - that would require some radical rethinking of what and economy/society is.

As sure as eggs is eggs, it starts with bashing the unemployed (because of course their unemployment is their fault), and leads to the need to be seen to be doing something. The elite can continue with their snouts in the trough and the likes of A4E can go on rewarding themselves for loading the conveyor belt of false hope.

Yes but when everyone works for Tesco for pennies who is going to be left shopping in Tesco? They will be schooled again in the Henry Ford wisdom of wages, the only question is when and how bad it will get beforehand.

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Why am I not surprised that Tesco is amongst the companies involved in this!

They seem intent on snatching more and more market share of every market.

Tesco Finance

Tesco Cars

Tesco Mobile

Tesco Entertainment

Tesco are a money grubbing amoral company. Firmly on my boycott list a long time ago.

Sadly I recently renewed a car insurance with Tesco but I will not be doing so again.

The Tesco PAYG mobiles are going.

As is the Tesco credit card. Already have another credit card so I'm switching spending immediately.

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