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The Legend Who Is Tony Benn

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The great man speaking. What I would give to see him back in the chamber and hear what he has to say.

The Issue is Thatcher (The man was so right)
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETqOvBKnKdk[/media]

Pit Closures
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WbtFga4c3g[/media]

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Tony Tells off the BBC and overrides their decision to not broadcast the address for the Gaza Crisis

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix5CkWWeSmI[/media]

And the Ali G interview (Your living in a world where everyones just so bloody greedy)

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1Khj7ZHMSo[/media]

Retired from politics and still going. State funeral for this man please when he finally leaves us.

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this is the man who, on the day the UK went cap in hand for an IMF bailout in the late 1970s, the govt minutes show, chose not to concern himself with the plight of the 10s of millions of britons living in poverty and destitution as a result of failed government (both that Labour govt and the prior tory one) [see Greece for a current equivalent]

issues like how do we deal with the financial pain, the riots, the joblessness

oh no, he decided to open a discussion in cabinet on the relevance of marx to the modern world

Champagne Socialism of the most f*cked up sort

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[quote name='Si1' timestamp='1329143260' post='3260113']
this is the man who, on the day the UK went cap in hand for an IMF bailout in the late 1970s, the govt minutes show, chose not to concern himself with the plight of the 10s of millions of britons living in poverty and destitution as a result of failed government (both that Labour govt and the prior tory one) [see Greece for a current equivalent]

issues like how do we deal with the financial pain, the riots, the joblessness

oh no, he decided to open a discussion in cabinet on the relevance of marx to the modern world

Champagne Socialism of the most f*cked up sort
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Seconded. Tony Benn as one of the key supporters of the formation of British Leyland did more than anyone else to screw up the car industry in this country. And lets not forget that this great champion of the miners closed a large number of pits while Energy Secretary. After the miners strike had ended he tried to introduce a bill to pardon all the miners arrested during the strike period, including the two charmers who dropped a concrete block onto the taxi driver, David Wilkie.

When Argentina invaded the Falklands he didn't support an invasion to get them back, but wanted the UN to deal with it. Military dictatorships aren't known for doing what the UN says...

A legend indeed.

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[quote name='Si1' timestamp='1329143260' post='3260113']
this is the man who, on the day the UK went cap in hand for an IMF bailout in the late 1970s, the govt minutes show, chose not to concern himself with the plight of the 10s of millions of britons living in poverty and destitution as a result of failed government (both that Labour govt and the prior tory one) [see Greece for a current equivalent]

issues like how do we deal with the financial pain, the riots, the joblessness

oh no, he decided to open a discussion in cabinet on the relevance of marx to the modern world

Champagne Socialism of the most f*cked up sort
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Perhaps he was dropping a bit of a hint regarding the failings of capitalism - incredibly the financial pain was dealt with very swiftly and the IMF loan was paid back well before expectations.

I really like Tony Benn, he is a fantastic orator even if you don't agree with his points he makes life more interesting.

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[quote name='BoviBoy' timestamp='1329238762' post='3261311']
And the lying, thiefing asset stripping crap we've had in over the last 30 years...
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you mean the process by which we went from being a poor to a rich country?

awful thing...

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[quote name='Russ W' timestamp='1329343883' post='3262589']
... the IMF loan was paid back well before expectations.
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IIRC we never actually borrowed the money although there was an agreement in place if we wanted it.

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[quote name='Goat' timestamp='1329950489' post='3268500']
IIRC we never actually borrowed the money although there was an agreement in place if we wanted it.
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Apologies - my memory was wrong but I think it was the case that because the UK recovery was so quick, Healey was offered a senior position in the IMF.

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[quote name='Si1' timestamp='1329913343' post='3267977']
you mean the process by which we went from being a poor to a rich country?

awful thing...
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And now quickly on its way to being a third world country. Short term gain for long term pain, no thought for the future.

How wonderful it's all turned out pricing your fellow offspring out of their own country just so a certain generation/group could feel rich!

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[quote name='Si1' timestamp='1329143260' post='3260113']
Champagne Socialism of the most f*cked up sort
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Over that thing that created cardboard cities, destroyed communities and industry, forced everyone to have their wages paid into a bank account so that the financial sector could gamble with them, slap a tax on everyone over the age of 18 and force them to pay the exorbitant amount or end up in court even if you didn't earn said money or were lucky enough to have a roof over your head (not even mentioning those houses she freely gave away and refused to build more for people who so desperately needed them).

And that war mongering liar and his disgusting wife

I'll take Benn, he at least is still fighting for what he believes in. What are the others doing?

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Benn has the luxury of never being PM. I often think of Barry Goldwater or Ron Paul as great statesmen, but neither did or will get the reigns of power. Im sure if either did, they would be a great dissapointment. As im sure Tony Benn would too. A good public speaker, that is all, who should bless his lucky stars he never got to be PM.

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This sums up Benn absolutely perfectly I think. At once thoroughly decent and totally deluded. Apparently he thought the Ali G show was for real and, when someone told him afterwards that it was a joke, he called up Channel 4 to complain!

They should give him a state funeral just because it would annoy him so much.

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Seconded. Tony Benn as one of the key supporters of the formation of British Leyland did more than anyone else to screw up the car industry in this country. And lets not forget that this great champion of the miners closed a large number of pits while Energy Secretary. After the miners strike had ended he tried to introduce a bill to pardon all the miners arrested during the strike period, including the two charmers who dropped a concrete block onto the taxi driver, David Wilkie.

When Argentina invaded the Falklands he didn't support an invasion to get them back, but wanted the UN to deal with it. Military dictatorships aren't known for doing what the UN says...

A legend indeed.

british leyland might have worked if it wasn't so polarised between sweatshop-owning masters and commie trade unions.

a bit of sensible dialogue would have sufficed.

ie factory owner says...OK, here's the deal...we are losing market share because quite frankly our cars are getting a reputation for being unreliable and the engineering is better on the continent...I'll make you a deal.

...improve your quality/reliability and get us a 20% improvement on our present sales/profitability(with repeat business),

I'll give employees a blanket 20% profit share-not an annual pay rise..because the market can and will fluctuate..but a performance related incentive.(or you can mix and match that 20% with some better working practices...in fact if you choose that route the company will match that percentage as it will aid us as well as you.

that means if you fail, you do not get any sweeties.end of.

we work together, we will both benefit but there are no free lunches.

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Commissar Benn would probably be trying to shut down the internet like he shut down pirate radio.

Very true - I hope none of his fans listen to commercial radio, if they do they are hypocrites.

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George Osborne is seemingly unable to shake off G i d e o n just because it sounds a bit posher, but Tony Benn never gets referred to as Viscount Anthony Neil Wedgwood Benn. Self-righteous, over-privileged idiots the pair of them.

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