Guest Charlie The Tramp Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 A must listen. Humphrys gives Brown a run for his money Scroll down to 8-10am to listen to it now To keep it as a souvenir. Download it from here 5.6MB Right click Save Target As Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjamin Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 i particualry like the bits where gb disputes the oecd figures and says all is well with uk plc. that'll be right, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Charlie The Tramp Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Humphrys: Economy relying on consumer spending, fuelled by debt, and high house prices. Brown: I disagree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penbat1 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 (edited) i particualry like the bits where gb disputes the oecd figures and says all is well with uk plc. that'll be right, then. I heard the bit when GB defended UK productivity by saying what a huge number of small businesses are in business since 1997. Does this stack up or make any sense ? Edited October 13, 2005 by penbat1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Charlie The Tramp Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Humphrys: Mervyn King said the next ten years will not be the same as the past ten years. I second that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Manson Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I heard the bit when GB defended UK productivity by saying what a huge number of small businesses are in business since 1997. Does this stack up or make any sense ? No start ups are sharply down. And IR35 plus a raft of other legislation seems to have been purposefully designed to prevent business startups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashCrash Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Humphrys: Economy relying on consumer spending, fuelled by debt, and high house prices. Brown: I disagree with that. Is he digging a bigger hole by not accepting the obvious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penbat1 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Is he digging a bigger hole by not accepting the obvious? The correct psychological expression is "in denial". Many people, especially politicians, are "in denial" about loads of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Property Dreamer Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 You have to ask yourself what is the point in bothering to listen to a politician like Chemical Crash Gordon. He spins and twists his statistics like a fish on a line. Every statement is qualified, every direct question avoided and a completely different question is 'half' answered instead using open ended statistics. 37% of me found the broadcast interesting, 40% of me found it amusing but 20% of me was getting very angry. Worryingly 3% of me wanted to spread chum over his fat naked carcas and dangle him over a pit filled with hungry, narrow-minded Australian crocodiles which had been forced to listen to a tape of his speeches for a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Peter Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 The correct psychological expression is "in denial". Many people, especially politicians, are "in denial" about loads of things. He couldn't really say anything else, though, could he? You don't know what he actually thinks, Peter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penbat1 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 He couldn't really say anything else, though, could he? You don't know what he actually thinks, Peter. He probably thinks the same thing - a form of self delusion and self-righteousness. Tony Blair, for example, most likely thinks he is doing us all a favour and sincerely thinks he is doing the right thing in Iraq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bears all Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 (edited) IMO the most amusing bit was where he said consumer spending was rising. Humphreys' incredulous laughter had an unforced ring of genuine outrage. Edited October 13, 2005 by bears all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilrich Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Anyone able to copy this interview into an WMA/MP3 format available to download? This interview is a must keep!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooner Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Anyone able to copy this interview into an WMA/MP3 format available to download? This interview is a must keep!!! You cannot help but think Humphrys was enjoying this a little more than usual - a little pay-back for the recent NuLab backed public wrist-slapping he endured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Property Dreamer Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 You cannot help but think Humphrys was enjoying this a little more than usual - a little pay-back for the recent NuLab backed public wrist-slapping he endured? Yes but I believe Mr H has been targeted and I wonder how long he's got left before the long reach of the NuLabour state apparatus makes him disappear. I can just see old man Crash Gordon instructing his oxbridge lap-dog lackeys to dig into Humphry's past and get something on him. Might make a good film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penbat1 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 (edited) Anyone able to copy this interview into an WMA/MP3 format available to download? This interview is a must keep!!! There are a few software products that allow you to convert streaming audio to an mp3 but cant think of name offhand. Do a Google search maybe. Edited October 13, 2005 by penbat1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backtoparents Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 This is the interview, right? Golden Brown Haven't tried listening to it yet, but they're podcasting the 8:10 item every morning. btp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smell the Fear Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 i particulary like the bits where gb disputes the oecd figures and says all is well with uk plc. that'll be right, then. He has also taken credit for Mervyn King's newly coined "Great Stability", but agreed that the business cycle still exists, then gave a little guilty chuckle when Humph mentioned "boom and bust is over". With regard to consumer sales falling, he stated categorically that when the final figures come out they will be higher than last year. And the year isn't even over yet.....something fishy there. He puts it down to a "series of services that people buy that are not included in purchases of food, or purchases of electronic goods". What has he managed to get shoe-horned in there to bulk it out? He expects the growth in consumer sales this year to be less than last year, putting it down to the 4 interest rate rises before the election, and a "squeeze" from oil prices. Nothing to do with house prices then? Not the housing ATM drying up, and mortgage interest consuming more of people's income? He mentioned that oil prices have trebled over the past 10 years, but nothing about house prices trebling. With regard to rates, he states interest rate decisions have been taken away from DIRECT political control. So are they now indirectly controlled? He also states "WE raised interest rates 4 times before the election", not the BoE raised them, followed by "you will do everything in your power to achieve that (stability)". Puppets on a string?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_wolf Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 There are a few software products that allow you to convert streaming audio to an mp3 but cant think of name offhand. Do a Google search maybe. you can download the podcast of it and convert from that easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
right_freds_dead Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 the cracks appear...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Charlie The Tramp Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 you can download the podcast of it and convert from that easily BBC Podcast Trial Download it from here 5.6MB Right click Save Target As Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smell the Fear Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 BBC Podcast Trial Download it from here 5.6MB Any touch typists out there who could type this interview up to post here? Then the HPC dogs could be unleashed to dissect Gordon's every nuance. We don't often get this sort of aggressive questioning of GB, indeed Mr H was worthy of the most rabid HPC posters in his line of questioning, and got some choice quotes from the Fat Fifer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levy process Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 He expects the growth in consumer sales this year to be less than last year, putting it down to the 4 interest rate rises before the election, and a "squeeze" from oil prices. Puppets on a string?? Blaming oil prices and interest rates for the economic slowdown that seems to be happening is in my opinion like driving without wearing a seatbelt, crashing into a tree, and then blaming the fact you broke your neck on the tree. The coming economic bad times have been in the post for years, since this country started living on a credit binge and artifically boosting employment by borrowing for public sector spending. It's no good moaning about oil now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mushroom Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 It's no good moaning about oil now. Oh yes it is. The Politician's eternal excuse "external factors". "Not me guv". Which suits today's ethos of blame shifting whatever one has done wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realistbear Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Gordon has not yet heard that wonderful US expression: If it looks like a recession, sounds like a recession and behaves like a recession in all probablility it is a recession. With every key indicator pointing down Gordon can only save his political life by hoping the economic wind changes directon before too many people notice. At least Al Greenspan has had the guts to admit that the US economy is taking on a shape more charcteristic of a pear than it was before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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