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#16 General Melchett

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 04:35 PM

"All of this has happened before, and it will all happen again."
The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 04:40 PM

"All of this has happened before, and it will all happen again."


Que sera, sera.

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 04:46 PM

meh
The possession of a cow or two, with a hog, and a few geese, naturally exalts the peasant. . . . In sauntering after his cattle, he acquires a habit of indolence.

Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 05:01 PM

To be honest i think a lot of us HPC'ers are just a bit worn out and depressed by it all recently.

There is so much hypocracy, stupidity and downright profiteering (both political and economic) at the moment its like living in a satirical sketch or a parody of what democracy should be.

Prices are generally stagnant or slowly falling, but incomes vs. inflation are erroding so quickly it doesn't matter, benifits cutting, engaging private enterprise even more.

Some recents examples:

1) We wonder where all the jobs are going to come from.... then we discover that in order to keep earning JSA many people are working for poundland or tesco or similar as free labour to do a 'work experience' scheme. Why bother advertising jobs when you have the state desperate to give you free labour?

2) We wonder what is going to be done to increase training capability for industry in need... then we find out that Eric Pickles is announcing a new Curry College. Yes this is the same Pickles who at the last conservative party conference won money from ladbrokes by taking a photo of himself eating curry in Brimingham.

3) We wonder how we will meet our ambitious climate change targets set by Tony Blair.... only to then find our Mr Hendry, the MP for Sussex, has bought a 2.5million mansion up in Ayrshire. That a great example,

4) We wonder where the political alternatives are... but we hear Milliband and Balls talking on about how this current government is causing the crisis by not spending enough and cutting too hard. when we all know that it was the last Labour party who have caused the majority of this to be neccessary by their unfunded overspending.

5) At a time when waiting lists for council housing are at their highest level ever in history... the government now announces a new plan to sell off more council housing under the right to buy at greater below market value discounts which of course are effectively underwritten by the taxpayer. Thus allowing those who needed council housing to buy at rates cheaper that anyone else will get whilst helping reduce total housing stock available to the local Housing Authority.

If it wasn't real government and real policies i'd be sure it was some kind of comic tragedy... instead i'm worn out of expressing the same shock, horror and concern over government announcements day after day. If they really want to destroy society then they are well on track.

It's depressing and each day the whole mess only gets worse and more farsical - there is no alternative to support out there who is making sense and has any credibility.

"While economic textbooks claim that people and corporations are competing for markets and resources, I claim that in reality they are competing for money - using markets and resources to do so. Greed and fear of scarcity are being continuously created and amplified as a direct result of the kind of money we are using. For example, we can produce more than enough food to feed everybody, and there is definitely not enough work for everybody in the world, but there is clearly not enough money to pay for it all. In fact, the job of central banks is to create and maintain that currency scarcity. Money is created when banks lend it into existence When a bank provides you with a $100,000 mortgage, it creates only the principal, which you spend and which then circulates in the economy. The bank expects you to pay back $200,000 over the next 20 years, but it doesn't create the second $100,000 - the interest. Instead, the bank sends you out into the tough world to battle against everybody else to bring back the second $100,000."

- Bernard Lietaer, Former Central Banker

#20 chala

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 07:40 PM

you are using property bee i assume.


Yes I'm using property Bee, but still not seeing drops like I was earlier in the year. When a house comes on the market at 170k, when it should really be around 150k, they may drop it 5k but it usually sells after the first drop. If you could see my saved properties now, I would say 70% of them are SSTC. To be fair I probably save far too many properties, as I'm interested in seeing if the sales fall through, plus it reminds me to check what the final sale price is once it's gone through.


broken chains...My EA contact says they place STC up as son as the purchaser nods....and when the mortgage fails, to materialise, they leave it posted "just in case".


The whole idea is to get you to think theres a shortage.



I don't get this at all. Surely if the sale falls through, the buyer would like it to be re-advertised as personally I will not enquire about a house that's either SSTC or Under offer on rightmove?



That must backfire.. as soon as I see a STC or Under Offer note it puts me off straight away. The last thing I want to do is get into a bidding war.. there's plenty of property not moving and clearly no rush.


Here I beg to differ, although I am only talking about Bristol to be fair. There's not a lot on the market at the moment (which I know will have something to do with the time of year), but I've been very suprised with the number of over priced properties that have quickly gone SSTC in the last few months. Granted they might fall through, but I have to say so far, only the odd one I've been watching has fallen through.

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 07:49 PM

I find it difficult to reply to the news items - sometimes it wants a password, sometimes it does not. Often if I post there the posts never show, and IMPO it distracts from the main forums, so what is the point of comments there?


I don't understand either. I have been posting here for three years, but for comments on the news items the site won't accept my pass or login.

In short. Gave up.

Most of the news items make it to the forum anyway, so it appears redundant.

#22 EvilEdna

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 07:49 PM

To be honest i think a lot of us HPC'ers are just a bit worn out and depressed by it all recently.

There is so much hypocracy, stupidity and downright profiteering (both political and economic) at the moment its like living in a satirical sketch or a parody of what democracy should be.

Prices are generally stagnant or slowly falling, but incomes vs. inflation are erroding so quickly it doesn't matter, benifits cutting, engaging private enterprise even more.

Some recents examples:

1) We wonder where all the jobs are going to come from.... then we discover that in order to keep earning JSA many people are working for poundland or tesco or similar as free labour to do a 'work experience' scheme. Why bother advertising jobs when you have the state desperate to give you free labour?

2) We wonder what is going to be done to increase training capability for industry in need... then we find out that Eric Pickles is announcing a new Curry College. Yes this is the same Pickles who at the last conservative party conference won money from ladbrokes by taking a photo of himself eating curry in Brimingham.

3) We wonder how we will meet our ambitious climate change targets set by Tony Blair.... only to then find our Mr Hendry, the MP for Sussex, has bought a 2.5million mansion up in Ayrshire. That a great example,

4) We wonder where the political alternatives are... but we hear Milliband and Balls talking on about how this current government is causing the crisis by not spending enough and cutting too hard. when we all know that it was the last Labour party who have caused the majority of this to be neccessary by their unfunded overspending.

5) At a time when waiting lists for council housing are at their highest level ever in history... the government now announces a new plan to sell off more council housing under the right to buy at greater below market value discounts which of course are effectively underwritten by the taxpayer. Thus allowing those who needed council housing to buy at rates cheaper that anyone else will get whilst helping reduce total housing stock available to the local Housing Authority.

If it wasn't real government and real policies i'd be sure it was some kind of comic tragedy... instead i'm worn out of expressing the same shock, horror and concern over government announcements day after day. If they really want to destroy society then they are well on track.

It's depressing and each day the whole mess only gets worse and more farsical - there is no alternative to support out there who is making sense and has any credibility.


Quite, worn out and depressed. It's all so expletive predictable.
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#23 MrB

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 08:11 PM

Decade long grind, not a Hollywood crash. Hence the tedium. Anyone viewing now is 5 years early.
1. Get up
2. Have a piss
3. Go to work
4. Get back from work

5. Read HPC
6. Watch The Bill
7. Go to bed


Stages 1-4 will happen between 7am and 5.30pm. Stage 5 is happening now. Stage 6 & 7 could happen anytime soon. Protect yourselves: buy an overpriced house!

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 08:33 PM

Is there another area of HPC other than the forums????

+1 Never bother looking elsewhere!
Food, shelter; both are basic necessities of life.
If you call out for cheaper food, you are a saint.
If you call out for cheaper shelter, you are ostracised, ridiculed, even your partners and family feel slightly ashamed of you.

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 08:36 PM

+1 Never bother looking elsewhere!


Thats because you are a landlord as you said yourself !

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 08:44 PM

Thats because you are a landlord as you said yourself !

First reaction: hey, that's cool! I've got a stalker!
I think that I've only mentioned once that I'm a landlord (by marriage) so it looks like at least one person is paying attention to my posts!

Second reaction: Ok, not sure why "being a landlord" means that I would never bother looking elsewhere than the forum. Ok, I've just finished eating, and the meal was washed down with something alcoholic, but the logic somehow escapes me...
Food, shelter; both are basic necessities of life.
If you call out for cheaper food, you are a saint.
If you call out for cheaper shelter, you are ostracised, ridiculed, even your partners and family feel slightly ashamed of you.

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 08:45 PM

The HPC home page is like a different country.

Read it, but very rarely post there.

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 09:27 PM

To be honest i think a lot of us HPC'ers are just a bit worn out and depressed by it all recently.

There is so much hypocracy, stupidity and downright profiteering (both political and economic) at the moment its like living in a satirical sketch or a parody of what democracy should be.

Prices are generally stagnant or slowly falling, but incomes vs. inflation are erroding so quickly it doesn't matter, benifits cutting, engaging private enterprise even more.

Some recents examples:


Pretty much sums it up for me. Continuing the film/good tv quotes meme, "bored now".... (I wish I could flay the targets of my wrath alive...)

TBH I wish rufus t firefly was in charge - at least I'd get a few laughs...
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#29 Bear in mind

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 09:37 PM

Hi guys, its a miserable (weather) sunday, but still the news items have only got 21 replies/comments between them ! is no one interested or would they rather debate geo politics ! The house price crash is starting but no ones commenting,I 've been looking in Bristol for a dogs age and they are definitely on the slide, what are other peoples experience where you live ?

Where in Bristol are you looking and at what? My search area in East Bristol, sub 200k 3 beds are selling at an alarming pace. Not just sstc either, I am seeing completed sales on anything half decent with I think slightly optomistic asking prices. I enquired about 2 last week and both had offers accepted. This was and is still not marked sstc on Rightmove. I know agents play games but I did not leave details with either and they didn't seem worried.

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 09:53 PM

Hi guys, its a miserable (weather) sunday, but still the news items have only got 21 replies/comments between them ! is no one interested or would they rather debate geo politics ! The house price crash is starting but no ones commenting,I 've been looking in Bristol for a dogs age and they are definitely on the slide, what are other peoples experience where you live ?


Its impossible to post on the news articles, I gave up trying. Never accepts my credentials.




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