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[u]Losses mount as troubled games retailer Game Group battles on
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Quarter day ?

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I wonder if their business model is losing [url="http://store.steampowered.com/"]Steam[/url]?

Very low prices, the ability to re-download games again (say if you've wiped your computer), older games made compatible with modern versions of the Windows OS, crazy sales on a regular basis.

Who in their right mind would buy from GAME rather than Steam?

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[quote name=''Bart'' timestamp='1317239677' post='3131944']
I wonder if their business model is losing [url="http://store.steampowered.com/"]Steam[/url]?

Very low prices, the ability to re-download games again (say if you've wiped your computer), older games made compatible with modern versions of the Windows OS, crazy sales on a regular basis.

Who in their right mind would buy from GAME rather than Steam?
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Game can often be a tenner over an online price...most of its customers base are internet savvy (they will either buy them online or via ebaygum) - they are fighting a losing battle - much like HMV...

Anyone know how Gamestation are getting on?

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Game stores are small and crowded, the queueing system is awful (I hand you some money; you hand over the game; I walk out of the shop: how long should that take?!?) and the stores too often smell of B.O. I assume that this is from the grubby kids that frequent the place but it could equally be from the spotty, uninterested teenage staff. And the prices are just stupid, when you consider how quickly the price of a new game drops after it's released.

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£51million?

how much is that per store?

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[quote name='Bloo Loo' timestamp='1317244056' post='3132001']
£51million?

how much is that per store?
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http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2010/04/23/game-to-close-100-uk-stores-ceo-resigns/1

between 677 & 550

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[quote name=''Bart'' timestamp='1317239677' post='3131944']
I wonder if their business model is losing [url="http://store.steampowered.com/"]Steam[/url]?

Very low prices, the ability to re-download games again (say if you've wiped your computer), older games made compatible with modern versions of the Windows OS, crazy sales on a regular basis.

Who in their right mind would buy from GAME rather than Steam?
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Steam is a good model but it isn't cheap.

OnLive (www.OnLive.com) is a much more interesting cloud based gaming model

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[quote name='Dave Beans' timestamp='1317244277' post='3132002']
[url="http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2010/04/23/game-to-close-100-uk-stores-ceo-resigns/1"]http://www.bit-tech....s-ceo-resigns/1[/url]

between 677 & 550
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thats about £85,000 per shop...over 6 months....

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Up until recently Game's online division had been pretty good, they beat Amazon, Play et al on price and always delivered preorders early. Lately though it's all gone downhill, especially when they launched their broken website redesign. I guess heavy competition from the digital distribution services have taken their toll.

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[quote name='Dave Beans' timestamp='1317240036' post='3131950']
Game can often be a tenner over an online price...most of its customers base are internet savvy (they will either buy them online or via ebaygum) - they are fighting a losing battle - much like HMV...

Anyone know how Gamestation are getting on?
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Gamestation & Game are owned by same parent co.
The monopolies & merger commission allowed the merger, if Gamestation continued to stock the old retro games. The retro continued as a token effort imo, the money was in 360 /ps3 / wii trade ins for which they paid peanuts as did CEX . Edited by Saving For a Space Ship

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[quote name=''Bart'' timestamp='1317239677' post='3131944']
Who in their right mind would buy from GAME rather than Steam?
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Someone with a games console?

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Sounds like they played the wrong game and now find themselves with no lives left.

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[quote name='Umiapik' timestamp='1317243577' post='3131993']
Game stores are small and crowded, the queueing system is awful (I hand you some money; you hand over the game; I walk out of the shop: how long should that take?!?) and the stores too often smell of B.O. I assume that this is from the grubby kids that frequent the place but it could equally be from the spotty, uninterested teenage staff. And the prices are just stupid, when you consider how quickly the price of a new game drops after it's released.
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Have you thought about writing a customer review for their website? :lol:

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[url="http://www.gamegroup.plc.uk/gmg_plc/investors/news/2011pr/2011-09-27/"]Link[/url]


[u]Press releases from Game with breakdown of figures
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Interim Results for the six months ended 31 July 2011
27/09/2011

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[url="http://www.retail-week.com/multichannel/online-retail/digital-deal-takes-game-into-instant-play-market/5029370.article"]Link[/url]

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[u]Entertainment group Game has formed a strategic partnership with on-demand and ‘cloud’ gaming specialist OnLive to provide the latter’s service to UK consumers.
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Game will initially offer OnLive’s products such as instant-play video game services “delivering real-time interactive experiences and rich media” through its websites Game.co.uk and Gamestation.co.uk later this year, then make them available through its 615 shops.
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Still too expensive compared to renting console games from lovefilm or downloading pc ones from steam.

I talked to manager of local Game shop, he said Ea games have introduced a policy where console games have a use once code now, so to re-use a used EA game, you have to pay £6.99 for a new key. Rumour has it that they are time limited as well.

Another nail.. Edited by Saving For a Space Ship

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[quote name='Saving For a Space Ship' ]
I talked to manager of local Game shop, he said Ea games have introduced a policy where console games have a use once code now, so to re-use a used EA game, you have to pay £6.99 for a new key. Rumour has it that they are time limited as well.

Another nail..
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Google 'project 10 dollar' and you will see that this has been around for a while, and that other developers are watching what will happen.

Someone drom EA said that the secondhand games market is more damaging than piracy to that games industry, personally if they sold the games at a cheaper price point to what second hand games go for, they will find they will kill off the secondhand market and get more sales.

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[quote name='Monkey' timestamp='1317253333' post='3132097']
Google 'project 10 dollar' and you will see that this has been around for a while, and that other developers are watching what will happen.

Someone drom EA said that the secondhand games market is more damaging than piracy to that games industry, personally if they sold the games at a cheaper price point to what second hand games go for, they will find they will kill off the secondhand market and get more sales.
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I know about that, (it was bonus goodies for $10) but this is different, sounds like crippleware.

According to the Game shop manager, your used Ea console game will not work online or sometimes will not work in single player mode. It is backward compatible. They have started putting white stickers on Gamestation console games ' saying ask the assistant to explain about online use' or similar.

It looks like all used Ea console games have been devalued by £6.99 + :angry:

Part of my business is selling online used console games, so this is a bit of a blow.

For my own use, I now rent games from lovefilm, but am unsure how Ea's crippleware will affect rental single player games.

I used to buy them, play them & sell them on. I've stopped, because the resale prices drop too quickly, and so few decent games (shooters) have come out in the last year. Edited by Saving For a Space Ship

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[quote name='Monkey' timestamp='1317253333' post='3132097']
Someone drom EA said that the secondhand games market is more damaging than piracy to that games industry,
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A lot of developers have trotted this line out, but I can't help feeling skeptical as a lot of people use the money gained from selling used games to buy more new games (although I guess the logic might work if you always equate one used game sale as one lost primary sale, as they seem to do with piracy). Also, the second hand market doesn't seem to have hurt the carmakers much...

Game ought to close some stores anyway, in many places (such as Bluewater) they have several thanks to the purchase and rebranding of Electronics Boutique.

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The internet is just obliterating retail one segment at a time. I've thought about buying some local retail stores that were for sale, but the thought kept creeping up, what if customers just go online and get it cheaper? I don't want to be invested in something facing that.

The other thought was how can I compete against big box co.

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[quote name='CrashConnoisseur' timestamp='1317247001' post='3132041']
Soon it will be Game Over.
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Maybe this will be of some use? :)

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[quote name='aa3' timestamp='1317278391' post='3132153']
The internet is just obliterating retail one segment at a time. I've thought about buying some local retail stores that were for sale, but the thought kept creeping up, what if customers just go online and get it cheaper? I don't want to be invested in something facing that.

The other thought was how can I compete against big box co.
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The High Street could become more specialist but its a risky strategy and the rents/rates are far too high. The problem is that my local town centre just seems to be full of the elderly, unemployed, students and those that work there. Anyone with a car and money goes to one of the big retail parks.

I expect many of the big box retailers to become collection points for online sales. Even Amazon is thinking of setting up collection points in town centres, and might generate some extra trade from the additional foot fall.

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