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#76 guitarman001

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 09:13 PM

Why do people assume that as soon as you buy a house you immediately want the price to shoot up?

Any sensible, rational thinking person would realise that (assuming they intend to move to a larger house at some stage) it is better for them to fall to close the gap between your house and the bigger house.

Are there no sensible, rational thinking people in the UK, or does everyone have a BTL?


Just COMPLETE idiots in the UK judging by the state of things.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 09:13 PM

Are there no sensible, rational thinking people in the UK, or does everyone have a BTL?


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Posted 22 September 2011 - 09:19 PM

I think "career politicians" are a real problem. No experience of the real world at all.
I don't think this was the case some years back. Politics was an interest, and a civic duty, not a career to the Victorians, or maybe not!
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But many Victorian politicians were career politicians: Eton - Oxbridge - Parliament was the typical route, perhaps with a year or two at the Bar but without any real practice or real world experience. Eg. Britain's greatest PM Gladstone entered Parliament at 23 after following this.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 09:20 PM

Why do people assume that as soon as you buy a house you immediately want the price to shoot up?

Any sensible, rational thinking person would realise that (assuming they intend to move to a larger house at some stage) it is better for them to fall to close the gap between your house and the bigger house.

Are there no sensible, rational thinking people in the UK, or does everyone have a BTL?


I love explaining exactly what you've just pointed out (I go through an example showing 1% HPI v 10% HPI and how it's easier to "climb the ladder" with 1% - ie a 100k house and a 200k house and how the gap between those two prices will grow more with higher HPI and therefore become harder to "climb") and people are amazed. It's like they've just been given forbidden knowledge. And yet it's just f**king basic maths! **GAAH!!**

Edited by Chuffy Chuffnell, 22 September 2011 - 09:22 PM.


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Posted 22 September 2011 - 09:37 PM

A ridiculous vested interest article. Enough said.

See... just like lefty arguments. They use dumbed down emotional blackmail.

'These BAD people are PREYING on hard working PEOPLE who are losing MONEY. how DARE they. BAD people'

Pathetic. House price inflation has ruined the country. The sooner they come down, the better for all.


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Posted 22 September 2011 - 10:13 PM

But many Victorian politicians were career politicians: Eton - Oxbridge - Parliament was the typical route, perhaps with a year or two at the Bar but without any real practice or real world experience. Eg. Britain's greatest PM Gladstone entered Parliament at 23 after following this.


Well you could hardly have had a comp or grammar school kid in the days when the plebs were mostly working in mills of coal mines, or on a farm, could you.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 10:24 PM

Well you could hardly have had an comp or grammar school kids in the days when the plebs were mostly working in mills of coal mines, or on a farm, could you.


When Gladstone first became an MP (before the Reform Acts he helped put through) you had to own property to be able to vote. The plebs didn't even get to vote let alone stand a chance of being MPs.

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 01:42 AM

When Gladstone first became an MP (before the Reform Acts he helped put through) you had to own property to be able to vote. The plebs didn't even get to vote let alone stand a chance of being MPs.


i would be cartain there was strong resitance to that at the time.
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Posted 23 September 2011 - 09:34 AM

I love explaining exactly what you've just pointed out (I go through an example showing 1% HPI v 10% HPI and how it's easier to "climb the ladder" with 1% - ie a 100k house and a 200k house and how the gap between those two prices will grow more with higher HPI and therefore become harder to "climb") and people are amazed. It's like they've just been given forbidden knowledge. And yet it's just f**king basic maths! **GAAH!!**

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 10:21 AM

I love explaining exactly what you've just pointed out (I go through an example showing 1% HPI v 10% HPI and how it's easier to "climb the ladder" with 1% - ie a 100k house and a 200k house and how the gap between those two prices will grow more with higher HPI and therefore become harder to "climb") and people are amazed. It's like they've just been given forbidden knowledge. And yet it's just f**king basic maths! **GAAH!!**


Yep I always use the example of a 100K flat and moving to a 200k flat.

Bascially if the price doubles - everyone THINK they have 'made' 100k - when in fact in terms of payments they have 'lost' 100k

When you explain this most simple of thing sto people it is like they have just been told some amazing fact.
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Posted 23 September 2011 - 10:22 AM

Yep I always use the example of a 100K flat and moving to a 200k flat.

Bascially if the price doubles - everyone THINK they have 'made' 100k - when in fact in terms of payments they have 'lost' 100k

When you explain this most simple of thing sto people it is like they have just been told some amazing fact.

Maybe that's where I'm going wrong. I assume that that's so obvious that I don't mention it and think that there must be something else going on that I've not worked out.

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 10:37 AM

Maybe that's where I'm going wrong. I assume that that's so obvious that I don't mention it and think that there must be something else going on that I've not worked out.


Nope - people are not told this - they are constantly bomabred with the 'High house prices are good for everyone' message. I tisnot a surprise that so many think it. I it brainwashing. Pure and simple. And I do not say that in any TFH way either. People in the UK are brainwashed. Luckily it is starting to wear off. VERY slowly though. 10 years of brainwashing is not going to be over in a couple of years. :(
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Posted 23 September 2011 - 10:40 AM

Amusingly, todays topic is how to cash in on stock market falls

But while uncertainty has made caution the overriding factor in many investors' decisions, with many surely dominated by the noise of "market crash" headlines - the flipside is that this turmoil creates opportunities for savvy bargain hunters.


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Posted 23 September 2011 - 10:43 AM

Amusingly, todays topic is how to cash in on stock market falls

Oh, the Irony.


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Posted 23 September 2011 - 11:38 AM

Amusingly, todays topic is how to cash in on stock market falls

Oh, the Irony.


But what about the poor sharebuyers who have over-extended themselves and stand to lose their shares? They have school fees to pay, mortgages to service, BMW lease payments to cover. These heartless 'bargain hunters' want to buy their shares on the cheap and derive such joy at the prospect of making a quick dime out of someone else's misery!




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