Turned Out Nice Again Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Italy's state-owned broadcaster cancels 'sexist' talk show http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-39326989 An Italian talk show is taken off air after issuing sexist advice on dating Eastern European women The TV show broadcast a graphic entitled "Reasons to choose an Eastern European girlfriend", which listed: "1. They are all mums, but after giving birth they regain their figure 2. They are always sexy. No tracksuits or pyjamas 3. They forgive cheating 4. They are willing to let their man rule 5. They are perfect housewives. They learn all house works at young age 6. They don't whine or get clingy, and they never hold a grudge." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CunningPlan Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 41 minutes ago, PopGun said: Yes with sh1t phone auto correct. Not sure why that explains how I keep referring to Joe as Dave though. Sorry Dave I mean Joe... Did you get your phone from a bloke in a pub in Peckham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dances with sheeple Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 19 hours ago, PopGun said: Simple, some women are nuts and never happy. Think about it. I'm not sure what the lifespan of an average cave woman was, but I'm guessing it wouldn't be very high. This probably explains why women have their fertility/birthing peak <25. We can probably agree on that. That doesn't give the average cave woman many years or time to 'play the field' or shit test cavemen does it? They were on the edge of survival, extinction lurking behind every corner. It was mate with best available male at that time as quickly as possible when they're still young enough to survive labour and defend her child from Sabre Tooth Pandas. if Cave women doesn't put out, Caveman goes elsewhere. Sound familiar?! Notice the importance here of available mates. There must be some reason betas have not been bred out of the gene pool after eons of evolution. Be it better providers, the smartest (tools) or simply the only men left after the alphas have killed each other in club duels. ALL women do the same stuff though? You will have to come up with something better than this. (and no, I haven`t met/f*ucked ALL women, so don`t use this as an excuse why your reasoning sucks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpectrumFX Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 7 hours ago, developer said: I would say the best diet is fruit, vegetables and a low fat source of protein. That will give you loads of fibre, nutrients and protein without the enemies of fat and (too many) carbs since fruit is so low calories. I think the '2000 calories a day' thing is bull if you are cutting, it might be possible to go as low as 1000 calories a day if you consider 100g of protein is only 400 calories and probably enough for most people unless you are hitting the gym hard and on a bulk. You're better off looking at it in terms of percentage calorie restriction from a base level calorie requirement. My weight would be stable at circa 2932 calories a day (that's based on regular weighing, and a food diary I've maintained for over a year). 1000 a day would kill me. Even 2000 is too little for any sustained period. The minimum I would target is a 25% restriction, so about 2200. I sometimes get below that on individual days, but by accident rather than design, and it'll ****** me up if i maintain it (i know because I've done it ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turned Out Nice Again Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 11 minutes ago, SpectrumFX said: You're better off looking at it in terms of percentage calorie restriction from a base level calorie requirement. My weight would be stable at circa 2932 calories a day (that's based on regular weighing, and a food diary I've maintained for over a year). 1000 a day would kill me. Even 2000 is too little for any sustained period. The minimum I would target is a 25% restriction, so about 2200. I sometimes get below that on individual days, but by accident rather than design, and it'll ****** me up if i maintain it (i know because I've done it ) Are you a lumberjack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpectrumFX Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, Turned Out Nice Again said: Are you a lumberjack? No, but I'm not allowed to drive and so get more exercise than most before i even start trying, just in getting my **** from place to place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeryMeanReversion Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 11 hours ago, happy_renting said: If a woman demanded that I treat her like a Princess, I'd offer to drive her without seatbelts at 120mph in a Paris underpass at night in a Mercedes. Disney Princess - Virgin with trust fund Dating Site Princess - "Experienced" with credit card debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbon Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 On 3/20/2017 at 9:41 PM, developer said: I seem to be the only one pushing the move abroad agenda quite hard, but then I am one of the younger posters here- so others may already have dug their UK hole and just can't stop digging or climb out In a way it's good to be a 'beta' here because it gives me the motivation to get in good shape so that when I finally move abroad I'll be an alpha yet still have the 'foreign women advantage' so to speak I've decided I'm going to give it a go if I can get my latest venture off the ground, which is purely online this time. All I'll need is a laptop and a decent internet connection. Better than saddling myself up with a boat load of debt to buy a overpriced house and still dealing with s. Might go bankrupt before then mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 11 hours ago, SpectrumFX said: It's interesting that typically mammals only engage in sexual relations when the female is in heat. We're different in that ovulation if concealed, allowing sex to be used as a control mechanism. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concealed_ovulation I found that interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDavola Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 12 hours ago, The Generation Game said: Take it to the nth degree and read the narcissism written by Saberu: Link Jesus Christ that made my flesh creep. I have to say since I haven't been on a date in longer than I can remember, I'm starting to feel like a bit of a loser philosophizing about women on this thread when I've had nothing to do with any of them in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbon Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, JoeDavola said: Jesus Christ that made my flesh creep. I have to say since I haven't been on a date in longer than I can remember, I'm starting to feel like a bit of a loser philosophizing about women on this thread when I've had nothing to do with any of them in a while. Get some hobbies, build a side business, restore an old car, hit the gym. I imagine the only people going on dates every other night are either Chads on Tinder or men who are happy to date fat single mums off PoF. If you want to hold out for a quality woman I think it's going to take a long time and a lot of real world interactions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wherebee Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 13 minutes ago, gibbon said: Get some hobbies, build a side business, restore an old car, hit the gym. I imagine the only people going on dates every other night are either Chads on Tinder or men who are happy to date fat single mums off PoF. If you want to hold out for a quality woman I think it's going to take a long time and a lot of real world interactions. This This This Any man who gets fitter will - 100% - have more success with women than his unfit old self would have done. That fact by itself should never be forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarsEnd Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 20 hours ago, Austin Allegro said: I've concluded this is pretty much the norm with women on dating sites or those who are heavily into 'dating'. The women I know who are, as far as I can tell, happily married, are those who have fairly stable moods and who generally appreciate what they have in life. The others seem to be perpetually unhappy, addicted to the latest 'fix' whatever that be - usually something to do with social media or their 'career' - and believing that the 'perfect' man is just a click away. The trouble is their idea of 'perfection' changes with the wind, so they are never satisified. It's for this reason I dislike the term 'sh*t test' that the manosphere uses. It implies that womens' bad behaviour is some sort of 'test' that can be 'passed' by men. The simple fact is that if a man cares what that sort of woman thinks enough to want to pass the test, this immediately disqualifies him. Sh*t testing is just bad, mad behaviour, full stop. It can't be 'passed' or 'failed' because the criteria will simply change. Eg, a sh*t test to show you are willing to stand up for her against others may at first be perceived as loyalty, but later can be seen as overbearing jealousy and not giving her 'space'. Essentially, you will always eventually end up as wrong. I agree with the rest of your post; it's all simply bad behaviour/mentalness. I've come to the conclusion after decades of women that you can only ever really be happy with them if 1) You don't give a f*ck and 2) You keep them on a tight rein and 3) You never allow them any control over you (house, shared finances, general ability to f*ck up your life). With most women though, far too much work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbon Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 1 hour ago, wherebee said: This This This Any man who gets fitter will - 100% - have more success with women than his unfit old self would have done. That fact by itself should never be forgotten. Yup and all that time you gain by not messaging and getting ignored by ratbags on PoF or ending up wasting time on dates with professional daters who are looking for some mythical Christian Grey can be spent turning yourself into a modern day Adonis, improving your career/finances and having interesting hobbies so when you do eventually cross paths with a sane attractive woman you'll be in a good position vs some kind of dating wraith who's only accomplishment is fulfilling the narcissistic needs of the worst women who all end up online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 1 hour ago, StarsEnd said: Essentially, you will always eventually end up as wrong. I agree with the rest of your post; it's all simply bad behaviour/mentalness. I've come to the conclusion after decades of women that you can only ever really be happy with them if 1) You don't give a f*ck and 2) You keep them on a tight rein and 3) You never allow them any control over you (house, shared finances, general ability to f*ck up your life). With most women though, far too much work. The Scottish fascist Government is about to introduce new domestic violence laws into place to include 'Coercion' and 'Controlling behaviour' into the remit. Shock horror the two previous 'victims' [Would love to hear the other side of the story] shown in the main piece on Reporting Scotland yesterday were female. The main one stated the reasons for her being a victim. He chose what clothes she wore, if she could see her friends or not and had control over the finances. It's laughable. I'd say at least half the blokes in the UK in long term relationships 'suffer' this sort of 'abuse' on an almost daily basis. Its standard for many. Its mainstream and its made fun of in numerous TV shows and lots of adverts. The latest Webuyanycar one a great example. He states that even though they could get more money elsewhere using this lot made sense as he values their time and effort. HIs wife looks at him and says 'Ohh - that's the smartest thing you have ever said'. Completely condescending, demeaning abusive comment. I personally couldn't care - its only an advert. But to have the regular abuse and putting down of men splashed across TV on a constant basis - whilst intruding laws that are clearly aimed at women being the victims due to similar behaviour - is pretty shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldbug9999 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 2 hours ago, gibbon said: Get some hobbies, build a side business, restore an old car, hit the gym. I imagine the only people going on dates every other night are either Chads on Tinder or men who are happy to date fat single mums off PoF. If you want to hold out for a quality woman I think it's going to take a long time and a lot of real world interactions. Thats all very well but problem with not bothering with regular (as in frequent) dating is that you get out of practice, you become outcome dependent on individual encounters. If/when you do eventually stumble on a "keeper" your very likely going to mess it up because because the stakes are high and you will be likely acting nervous and desperate. Unless your some who is supremely self confident and socially adept its likely that a downward spiral will set in - you get less as less confident as time between female encouters increases. Online dating provides a regular stream of target practice. But please please forget PoF and use a proper dating site where you have to pay money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDavola Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 51 minutes ago, gibbon said: Yup and all that time you gain by not messaging and getting ignored by ratbags on PoF or ending up wasting time on dates with professional daters who are looking for some mythical Christian Grey can be spent turning yourself into a modern day Adonis, improving your career/finances and having interesting hobbies so when you do eventually cross paths with a sane attractive woman you'll be in a good position vs some kind of dating wraith who's only accomplishment is fulfilling the narcissistic needs of the worst women who all end up online. Yes I basically regret every second that I spent on POF after the first 6 months. Heaven knows how long I spent browsing the site, messaging people, texting people, and then going on, mostly bad, dates. It was all a complete waste of time that would have been far better spent doing pretty much anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepLurker Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 21 minutes ago, ccc said: The Scottish fascist Government is about to introduce new domestic violence laws into place to include 'Coercion' and 'Controlling behaviour' into the remit. Shock horror the two previous 'victims' [Would love to hear the other side of the story] shown in the main piece on Reporting Scotland yesterday were female. The main one stated the reasons for her being a victim. He chose what clothes she wore, if she could see her friends or not and had control over the finances. It's laughable. I'd say at least half the blokes in the UK in long term relationships 'suffer' this sort of 'abuse' on an almost daily basis. Its standard for many. Its mainstream and its made fun of in numerous TV shows and lots of adverts. The latest Webuyanycar one a great example. He states that even though they could get more money elsewhere using this lot made sense as he values their time and effort. HIs wife looks at him and says 'Ohh - that's the smartest thing you have ever said'. Completely condescending, demeaning abusive comment. I personally couldn't care - its only an advert. But to have the regular abuse and putting down of men splashed across TV on a constant basis - whilst intruding laws that are clearly aimed at women being the victims due to similar behaviour - is pretty shocking. That's covered a good half-dozen religions right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldbug9999 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, JoeDavola said: Yes I basically regret every second that I spent on POF after the first 6 months. Heaven knows how long I spent browsing the site, messaging people, texting people, and then going on, mostly bad, dates. It was all a complete waste of time that would have been far better spent doing pretty much anything else. PoF is just a parade of self entitled fat tattooed under educated rat bags, well about 95% that and about 5% hotties but the hotties only differ from the norm wrt to weight and who are probably mostly ex strippers or escorts. Honestly I can stress how much worse PoF is than pretty much every other alternative (online and offline) - I know because in my day I tried them all. The general rule with dating sites is - if its free it will be sh*te. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 It should be pretty clear to all that places like PoF only have the dregs of society on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 43 minutes ago, goldbug9999 said: PoF is just a parade of self entitled fat tattooed under educated rat bags, well about 95% that and about 5% hotties but the hotties only differ from the norm wrt to weight and who are probably mostly ex strippers or escorts. Honestly I can stress how much worse PoF is than pretty much every other alternative (online and offline) - I know because in my day I tried them all. The general rule with dating sites is - if its free it will be sh*te. I disagree with this. I have lost count of the number of women I have talked to on POF who convinced themselves that a paid dating site, such as dating direct/match/etc, would have 'better' people on them but who then discovered that they were no better, and sometimes worse, than POF. I am having abit of a purple period - ha ha - at the moment. All those years of perfecting the crusty roll chat-up technique has done me well. That and I basically no longer give a feck. I openly flirt and chat with several ladies per day. Some have gone on to dalliances that I take so far and then no further. Often, whether it is flirting or dalliance, the ladies seem very disappointed when I point out that I am not seeking anything longer-term. I do look fairly good for my age - so others tell me - but I suspect that is more to do with no kids and the fact that, in Wales, men half my age seem to turn into pork pies quite rapidly. More to do with genes I suppose. What I am trying to say, in a long-winded way, that just flirting and not caring is the way to go. You can't have one without the other. If you flirt and care then you worry about rejection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasshopper Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 1 hour ago, ccc said: The Scottish fascist Government is about to introduce new domestic violence laws into place to include 'Coercion' and 'Controlling behaviour' into the remit. Shock horror the two previous 'victims' [Would love to hear the other side of the story] shown in the main piece on Reporting Scotland yesterday were female. The main one stated the reasons for her being a victim. He chose what clothes she wore, if she could see her friends or not and had control over the finances. It's laughable. I'd say at least half the blokes in the UK in long term relationships 'suffer' this sort of 'abuse' on an almost daily basis. Its standard for many. Its mainstream and its made fun of in numerous TV shows and lots of adverts. The latest Webuyanycar one a great example. He states that even though they could get more money elsewhere using this lot made sense as he values their time and effort. HIs wife looks at him and says 'Ohh - that's the smartest thing you have ever said'. Completely condescending, demeaning abusive comment. I personally couldn't care - its only an advert. But to have the regular abuse and putting down of men splashed across TV on a constant basis - whilst intruding laws that are clearly aimed at women being the victims due to similar behaviour - is pretty shocking. I presume that this would be used in those exceptional cases of abuse when violence was not used but intimidation was. It would then be up to the police to gather the evidence and for the CPS to assertain if there was a substantial chance of a conviction and if prosecution was in the public interest. One can only hope that common sense would prevail in such cases. I have presumed in all this that the scottish legal system operates in a similar fashion to that in England. Father-in-law was quite happy for my late mother-in-law to buy his clothes, choose what he would wear and lay them out on the bed for him. Cook meals, shop and generally run around after him. This gave him more time to read, write long letters to the news papers and play lots of golf once retired. He made the big decision on finance etc. It worked for them. When Mrs G tried to lay out my clothes I said no thanks. But I'm pretty rubbish at clothes so I will take her advice or suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 1 hour ago, DeepLurker said: That's covered a good half-dozen religions right there. Very good point. But that's in the 'allowed' grouping that gets made up and agreed somewhere. Apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 43 minutes ago, grasshopper said: I presume that this would be used in those exceptional cases of abuse when violence was not used but intimidation was. It would then be up to the police to gather the evidence and for the CPS to assertain if there was a substantial chance of a conviction and if prosecution was in the public interest. One can only hope that common sense would prevail in such cases. I have presumed in all this that the scottish legal system operates in a similar fashion to that in England. Father-in-law was quite happy for my late mother-in-law to buy his clothes, choose what he would wear and lay them out on the bed for him. Cook meals, shop and generally run around after him. This gave him more time to read, write long letters to the news papers and play lots of golf once retired. He made the big decision on finance etc. It worked for them. When Mrs G tried to lay out my clothes I said no thanks. But I'm pretty rubbish at clothes so I will take her advice or suggestions. Assuming that common sense prevails when dealing with the CPS of today is a dangerous game. I really find it difficult to see how this would get anywhere - other than the most extreme cases [Which is perhaps why its being put in place as you say - but i'm hugely cynical of the CPS] There will be very few blokes who wouldn't have evidence available to them that showed the woman doing similar behaviour towards them. He said/she said. I don't even know I would class this as 'abuse' except for the most extreme examples. The 'nagging' wife is well documented and been around for ever. If that's not controlling and coercive behaviour then I don't know what is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Allegro Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 2 hours ago, goldbug9999 said: Thats all very well but problem with not bothering with regular (as in frequent) dating is that you get out of practice, you become outcome dependent on individual encounters. If/when you do eventually stumble on a "keeper" your very likely going to mess it up because because the stakes are high and you will be likely acting nervous and desperate. Unless your some who is supremely self confident and socially adept its likely that a downward spiral will set in - you get less as less confident as time between female encouters increases. Online dating provides a regular stream of target practice. But please please forget PoF and use a proper dating site where you have to pay money. Yes you get 'out of practice' if you are concerned about outcomes and are looking for 'the one'. If you just don't give a f*ck, it gets easier the fewer women you come into contact with. Example - in the first year after I separated from my wife, I vowed I would make no special effort to meet or attract women ever again. During this time I got approached twice (bear in mind I wasn't going out much) by quite attractive women who asked me out on dates. Oh and I have to laugh at those men who think eastern European women are any different to women anywhere! Yes, they are generally much better looking than British women and have more self respect and a modicum of traditional values, but going there expecting it to be trouble free dating heaven is a bit like choosing to go into the lion's enclosure in the zoo instead of the rhinoceros's cage, because the lions look prettier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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