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  1. "The stuff people want to do" is an interesting one. I do think that most people want to feel they're of some use to society so whilst they might grumble about working and would love the money without the work I guess what would be best for a lot of us is just a bit less work (three day week without there being an economic catastrophe perhaps). But you can't really automate a lot of jobs to take that pressure off without ending up automating the entire job away. It does seem daft to build complicated machines to do jobs that humans can do if there are humans sitting around wishing they had something to do. When it comes to ones no-one really wants to do at all but someone has to, automate away. In that case the potential benefits are good, but it still runs into the wealth concentration problem.
  2. One in four people 'trapped in low-paid jobs'  

    Is there any evidence at all that a shortage of labour is anything other than good for the majority of people? And in any case if you keep on importing people to fill low paid jobs you've got a system that relies on a constant increase in the number of people just to stay still, an unsustainable situation (and it reaches undesirable long before it becomes unsustainable). Arguing for immigration to constantly fill any permanent jobs is to admit to a fundamental flaw in the economy and /or society but refusing to do anything about it.
  3. The owners of the technology will become richer but they're a minority. Everyone else will become poorer unless something else pops up that couldn't be done by an AI. Such changes help concentrate wealth rather than distribute it more evenly. There's already enough wealth in the UK for everyone to have a pretty comfortable life. Those pushing for more are either doing so simply because they're in a position to grab it, or under the mistaken belief that increased wealth will be spread out.
  4. If Madrid was convinced that independence is just what a noisy minority want they should've let the referendum go ahead without interference.
  5. Good comparison. Another important difference that those who trot (no pun intended, but I wish it had been) out the "Luddites always say this about anything new" is that past developments resulted in real, meaningful improvements in lives, even if that took quite some time to filter through to most of us. Now we've got no worries about the necessities (except maybe shelter, and that's due to other issues anyway), other than medical improvements. Whilst it's true you need to be wary of anyone saying "it's different this time" you need to be equally wary of those fishing out vageuly similar examples from the past and assuming that the same outcome always happens. If AI and automation becomes a truly generic process then any newly invented work will get done by that too. Maybe the Luddites argued that too about the machines they were worried about, but is it a valid comparison?
  6. So the former should be even less to worry about for you. I never said that it was. Indeed I was saying that the worry about terrorism is disproportionate - I was actually mostly agreeing with you on that part! I know being European means something to you, and that's the part of your argument that I respect, even though it doesn't mean anything to me. edit: And not suspended
  7. You're going off in a completely random-looking direction there and drawing very strange conclusions about my opinions. I've said nothing about needing or not needing Islam. Actually I'm not in favour of freedom of movement. Ease of movement of nutters is one reason I think that, but you need to keep it in perspective. Anyway who has said "no matter what"? "If it saves one life!" doesn't cut it either. Both that and no matter what are absurd extremes. Like everything there are pros and cons. Some people think the pros of freedom of movement outweigh the cons. I disagree with them but not for this reason alone.
  8. Not being directly concerned about the risks of terrorism doesn't mean being indifferent to it when and where it does happen, and treating those perpetuating it as heavily as possible. You can be not terribly concerned without being callous and uncaring.
  9. Whilst predications about doom, mass starvation and so on are probably exaggerated, and that peak may well be plausible, I simply don't like the idea of what the world will have to be in order to support that number, even though it probably can.
  10. Fair enough. I've met a few Remainers who seem passionate about the EU too, and similarly I can respect that even though I profoundly disagree with a lot of what they say (HairyOB1 seems to be one of those for example - he seems motivated more by loving the look and feel of EU Europe, and I'd guess that's why he gets annoyed by those who don't). I admit to failing to resist the temptation to draw deliberately insulting conclusions more by a desire to draw them than thinking they completely stack up.
  11. One in four people 'trapped in low-paid jobs'  

    Although I don't think the question about which are causes and which are effects has been completely resolved.
  12. One in four people 'trapped in low-paid jobs'  

    They're all components or symptoms of a larger malaise.
  13. You don't see at all. Tragic. An inability to view the world as anything other there to be used and abused. Life really is wasted on some people.
  14. That shows a projection of slowing rather than saying it is yet, although we might have moved on from when it was made enough to get an idea from more up to date data. Even so it's beyond me why some people seem entirely unconcerned at the issues surrounding even the current numbers, and bear in mind that when taken over the whole world a lot still live in poverty, and we're nowhere near able to support the current level with a decent standard of living. It's certainly nothing to do with not liking people (some individuals aside )
  15. It's quite sad that you keep trying to twist it to "people bad". It would probably be me twisting things if I was to suggest that that's because it's at least simple, and people who measure their quality of life by the number of vacuous distractions available generally prefer simple to right.