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2 minutes ago, Sheeple Splinter said:
Heading that way already.
Removal/reduction of tariffs & NTB's, from RoW manufacturers, risks current and proposed plants/factories in Europe.
Yup...The SM is 85% global rules anyway...The EU has decided to put this big bureaucratic monolith in the way...
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1 minute ago, Peter Hun said:
And in fact, that is far more relevant than the Referendum which gave no definition of how we would leave.
A party honouring a manifesto pledge...That's a new one on me...Not that they've made a complete horlicks of it is neither here or there...Leave the single market and customs union, but expect an "orderly exit"...hmm..
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27 minutes ago, Bruce Banner said:
So, another step closer to BRINO, the option not on the referendum form.
Was in part of the Tory manifesto for the last election...
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I suspect an extension has already been agreed upon if were to be requested...
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26 minutes ago, GrizzlyDave said:
The other approach is to agree the end state and then the WA is just a dingy from ship to shore.
Getting this far has been a battle...2 and a half years later...if its anything to go by, then I expect the sun to explode before we get to an end point...
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1 minute ago, GrizzlyDave said:
The only way out of this loop is for parliment to go through and debate - and then indicative vote - all the brexit options.
...which they rejected! (well its only advisory) Only Mrs May's govt to put that forward, and she'll say its her deal or no deal...Round we go again!
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2 minutes ago, GrizzlyDave said:
??????This??????
Yet another day wasted.....
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5 minutes ago, MonsieurCopperCrutch said:
No deal binned.
How? Its the default, and the EU are not going to change the WA... Thus its Mrs May's deal or no deal..
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4 minutes ago, Sheeple Splinter said:
They'd be little need for the single market as we know it in twenty years time..
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2 minutes ago, Sheeple Splinter said:
Just checked the fridge, Egyptian Strawberries!
No doubt about the confusion out there.
More on the WTO's TFA from the WEF:
AKA The Single Window...
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3 minutes ago, Chunketh said:
Under their Association Agreement which entered into force in March 2000, the EU and Morocco established a Free Trade Area liberalising two-way trade in goods. They have subsequently developed the FTA further through an agreement on trade in agricultural, agro-food and fisheries products and a protocol establishing a bilateral dispute settlement mechanism both of which entered into force in 2012.
The Free Trade Area established under the EU-Morocco Association Agreement provides for:
- tariff-free two-way trade of industrial products, together with a selective liberalisation of trade in agricultural, agro-food and fisheries products
- rules and disciplines on non-tariff based trade measures
- a general right to establish businesses and provide services in the other territory
- current payments and capital movements
- common rules on competition and intellectual property
The EU and Morocco concluded negotiations for an Agreement on Geographical Indications in January 2015: respective procedures for adopting this Agreement are now underway.
There is an agreement (pg 2) showing product conformity of assessment on fresh fruit imported from Morocco. This would reduce the amount of batch testing that is required on each pallet of strawberries.
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2007:350:0001:0098:EN:PDF
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1 minute ago, Bruce Banner said:
How did they get through customs?
They would have to go through SPS checks..They could well have been frozen when imported..
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2 minutes ago, kzb said:
I thought that must be what you meant, just wanted to make sure.
So, we'll have too much meat then?
Any product derived from animals & plants..
http://trade.ec.europa.eu/tradehelp/sanitary-and-phytosanitary-requirements
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Just now, kzb said:
Are you saying the EU will check its animal origin exports to the UK?
From the UK...
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17 minutes ago, kzb said:
Unfortunately you might be right about the panic buying. This is because people are being deliberately wound up. Something I note in passing will be very advantageous for supermarket balance sheets....
UK customs won't impede imports. Why should they? The EU itself has put in contingency plans. The port of Calais says there is no reason for delays.
I'd imagine that the EU would apply for WTO emergency waivers in order to help prevent food & medical imports from being blocked. There will be checks at all EU ports for all UK (third country) exports of goods of animal origin (SPS)...
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1 hour ago, pig said:
But the reasoned strategic Brexit for the benefit of the population was never on offer - look at all the memes going round and what Leavers are parroting about WTO.
I think the ‘game’ is intended as per local hero and chums: smash up the state stitch the pieces together along RW lines, make a killing out of serfdom.
Some further elaboration of the Roland Smith thread.
From the horses mouth, so to speak..
http://eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=87129
...an interesting read, where Cummings, Banks, Farage et al. were utterly complicit in not wanting an exit plan...
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4 minutes ago, GrizzlyDave said:
Fair enough - well reasoned - thanks for sharing.
No probs GD...
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Just now, GrizzlyDave said:
So what brexit solution do you advocate DB - to overcome this border issue?
I would just push through the WA as is, and then work towards a way of not requiring it; ie developing an EEA type solution afterwards (then kick into the process of developing a two tier Europe). If we go into a no deal situation, the issues (citizens, money, irish border) will still need to be settled before an agreement with the EU is made. The EU will want to get further concessions (after the fact) out of the UK before they will agree to sign up to anything. Under the thumb of the EU will make it harder for the UK to develop a two tier Europe. Under the WA, at least we can make our own decisions in what we what to do...after a no deal, it will be much more difficult...
We need to think about the long game..
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1 minute ago, GrizzlyDave said:
We manage to trade very effectively with the USA without an FTA...
We have about thirty PTAs with the US via the EU..We don't trade under pure WTO rules with the US..
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Just now, GrizzlyDave said:
Why would we need an FTA if we have a zero tariff trade policy?
UK exporters would face tariffs, but those shipping into the UK would not. It would destroy UK industry..
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Just now, GrizzlyDave said:
What’s the problem then?
If we unilaterally dropped tariffs, why would the US want to do an FTA with us?
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12 minutes ago, GrizzlyDave said:
Not if we unilaterally zero tariff...
Why would anyone want to sign FTAs with us if we did? Tariffs arent the big problem though..
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9 minutes ago, localhero1983 said:
I could take what you said further, but I won't, I personally don't have the stamina like so many on this thread. Brexit or Remain, both have good and bad points, there are varying degrees to how bad or good things will get whatever we choose, I personally think the pain will be slight after a period of time whatever we choose.
My gripe on this thread is with people who return to this board on an hourly basis on some occasions to just sat "look, i have found something else bad or good", but always fits their agenda and it is 100% of the message the world will end should you make the wrong choose, which is b****x on whatever side you are on, and it is fine to be on a side I might add, just don;t be over the top
It’s the lies and misinformation on both sides that really annoy me.
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...Only about another 700 left to replace...
Brexit What Happens Next Thread ---multiple merged threads.
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Ah hello Mr Crashing, I was waiting for you to appear....